Sharon has a stroke
Sharon is now in the hospital suffering from a stroke. This puts the arab world in a moral dilemma: Wish that the man they so loathe would finally die, or hope that the only man currently capable of pulling off peace with the palestinians would live to win the next elections? Hate vs. Pragmatism! Choices, Choices....
posted by The Sandmonkey @ 12/18/2005 11:51:00 PM
23 Comments:
Did you see the video footage of Hamas Armed teenagers giving out snaks and cookies to celibrate?
Now call me a zionists consperacy nutbar, but I don't think those snaks were kosher! :)
On a serious note, SM, what is your take on the new video footage challenging the death of Muhamed al Durah, that poor palestinian boy who allegedly was killed by the IDF.
Could this be the first successful blood libel of the 21st century? I must say, the evidence that his death was faked for propeganda is pretty compelling... and I really am not a consperacy guy! (why do aliens only visit alcoholics living in trailers?!)
If it is fake, I say France should be sued into the stone-age! If it just a consperacy , I will have to kick my own ass :(
Sharon went to hospital after an Hamas-islamic Jihad or Aqsa martyrs ( take your pick) sent an assassin to kill him by poisoning his food. Apparently the guy failed as all he did was cause sharon a really bad heartburn & awful gasses by cooking his dinner too much in corn oil.
damn!
no, seriously...the guy is 77 years old & is always on the move, how long before his heart starts to object?
Jokerman, Sharon is nearly 78 and exceedingly overweight. What's wrong with our electoral system that we end up with geriatrics like Sharon and Peres ?(though between them, I much prefer Sharon).
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Is this what you want, scorekeeper?
jonas
Mike its good to see conspiracy theories are not completely monopolized by Arabs.
As far as Sharon goes I see no reason for a conflict of interest. He’ll have plenty of time in hell to pay for what he’s done. For now lets hope he sticks around long enough to deliver.
Damn it man I’ve got so much to do you gotta go and pull me into this ;)
Look man I know you must have misunderstood because your replies are usually more relevant. I KNOW current day Arabs have become, in my opinion, “chronically prone” to conspiracy theories. And yes there is usually a JOOOOO behind most of them. My own mother genuinely believes that Princess Di was murdered by the British (via remote control car no less) because she was set to marry an Egyptian and would end up bearing half Egyptian step brothers to the eventual king of England… Yeah.
Claiming that there is some big European conspiracy, lead by those damn frogs, to paint IDF solders as murders by knowingly withholding refuting evidence sounds just as silly to me. At least my mom took the time to come up with a plausible motive. What’s yours, rampant anti-Semitism in Europe again?
As for equivalency in general that needs to be put in context. Considering the overwhelming difference in the balance of power I do not find Israeli’s any more moral than Palestinians.
All for now. Peace. Oh and sorry I just found out how to get email addresses from the login info… its weird.
Karim
6’6 320?....damn.
“I'll reply to each part briefly.”
Haha I don’t think your capable ;)
I’m going to focus on one point.
“You know how pathetic that sounds?
The Palestinians are the 'weaker' side so we don't expect them to act like adults, no they simply act "immature" or "childlike" oh that Ereket, so he lies through his teeth but he's seemingly such a congenial friendly kind a guy.”
No, not pathetic. I said “As for equivalency in general that needs to be put in context. Considering the overwhelming difference in the balance of power I do not find Israeli’s any more moral than Palestinians.” And you should think about it a moment. Genuinely think about it. Put things in historical context to make the correlations easier. Were not the Arabs the pinnacle of civilizations during some of humanities most disgusting atrocities? Did not the early Jewish immigrants to the States form among the most uncivilized and crime ridden communities at the time? (before you contest that last point look into it)
Civilizations and cultures go through wide variations of ups and downs down the timeline. I’m not teaching you this, I know you know this. Is it fair or even plausible to compare apexes of civs?…maybe. But two concurring points because they happen on the same axis?
Look man, screw this theoretical stuff, only the most stubborn and blind would defend every action of a collective people. In this chapter of Palestinian civilization one is lucky to find a handful of events to stand by, I would admit that as willingly as I would sadly. That said I would not be a proud representative of Israeli culture right now either.
Oh and you haven't said anything on the Chomsky article. Im sure you'll have fun ;)
Scorekeeper,
Sorry, I misunderstood. Besides lgf, what other sites within the blogspot domain allow hot links? Any examples?
jonas
To Anat
I did wonder before why Israel's prominent politicians are usually old, with the exception of bibi & barak (who both did not last for long anyway), but looking at the Prime ministers over the last 15 years, they are all quite old from shamir & Perez passing to Rabin & sharon. I have a feeling this stroke will alter to a degree the psyche of the Israeli people...but again, who knows?
To El sahi
sure, conspiracy theorists are almost everywhere but difference is, in a civilized country, they are usually a minority & rarely have they or has the alleged theory changed the course of modernity, whereas in the ME its the complete opposite.
To Karim & storekeeper, dialectic discussions is a big word that i will use to describe your replies to divert attention away from anything else.
But to be objective, karim, objectively compare the Current Israeli contribution to humanity & the palestinian contribution. Palestinians have politicized religion & introduced a vile abominable method that seems to blind most arabs & muslims & thus became a disgusting synonym to muslim, that is the suicide bomber or " Martyr".
I dont think you could be a proud representative for the israeli culture anyway, but what current culture can you proudly represent?
I will Mike. Actually it was a Rabbi that first made that argument to me (albeit Reform)
Joker that was exactly my point. It would be as insane as it would be unfair to compare Israeli and Palestinian contribution to society. Israel contributes incredibly to science, medicine, and other important fields. Exponentially more when the size of its population is factored. That isn’t the argument though.
“what current culture can you proudly represent?” Yeah, you got me and hit it right on the head there man. Sad world isn’t it. Antarctica process asylums?
Kenny G Banned in the Islamic Republic
jonas
This what you mean, scorekeeper?
Read up on Jewish gangsters in the early 1900's. Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegel, Dalitz, Zwillman… There was a very large criminal element within the newly arrived impoverished Jewish community. Now Jews in America have a higher average income than the national average. You can expect the same soon from other minorities… Black, Latino… its normal progression. Like Wall Street. Good conditions (no war, prosecution…) allow for better societies. Inevitably (almost predictably in itself) conditions tend to change due to unforeseeable reasons, again like the markets. That leads to an almost conventional fluctuation from high to low. My argument was based on the fact that while Israel (because of the Jews it is comprised of) is enjoying a high the Palestinians (again because of the make up of Arabs) are suffering a low. While the current reasons for these highs and lows are debatable they for these purposes inconsequential. The comparison is flawed or at least pointless. Would a comparative look at Islamic societies in the (European) Middle Ages to Jewish culture of the time be worthwhile? No, while Arabs were busy inventing everything that starts with “al” the Jews were to busy ducking prosecution. Would that be a good way to find out who can build a better society and contribute more to humanity?
Scorekeeper,
If you take out the six stars in the line below.....
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you will get...
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/I thought it was some complex doo hickey
jonas
You know I read your last comment and I was like “Why the hell is this prick reverting to name calling”. Then I read though the whole forum and your right. I did deviate widely but more importantly I allowed my self to get polarized into a position that was, though correct, pointless. It’s not easy having to pray to god every time you get a CNN alert that your people aren’t mentioned, so yes, I guess I do have a subconscious defense mechanism.
About the Durrah thing I have seen that video and no it’s not irrefutable evidence. I make these kinds of animations for a living btw. In my opinion, there were many presumptions. More importantly when it comes to these kinds of things, conspiracies in general, I tend to leave it up to international consensus. The world is too modern and small for secrets of this magnitude to be kept. That’s how I feel about most of them. There are too many different people dedicated to finding out the truth for every small incident. That’s how I feel. A major network breaks it, France 2 is indicted for libel (libel against a county, does that work?) then I’ll believe it. They find the controller and send Charles to jail, then I’ll buy that too.
And don’t give me that Jooooooos crap. You’ve been to my site; you know what I’m about. (It’s getting played too)
congratulations to the world if Sharon dies. What goes around comes around.
Israeli contribution to humanity?! HUH!!!! sure they are the new nazi's for sure. That is their disgraceful contribution to humanity.
P.S. to the bunch of pro-Israelis on this blog don't forget to act victimized that is what Jews do best
Anonymous: "Israeli contribution to humanity?! HUH!!!! sure they are the new nazi's for sure. That is their disgraceful contribution to humanity."
Wow, jews are nazis... how original!!
In Israel you can...
a. Convert to any religion and not be killed or improsoned
b. Celibrate gay pride parade and not be killed or improsoned
c. wear whatever you wish and not be killed or improsoned
d. free press and free speach and not be killed or improsoned
yep, they're nazis.
No wonder so many Israelis are fleeing the country in terror!
(incedently, does anyone have the numbers on how many Arabs seek refugee status in Israel? Do they still accept honor crime fears... its legitimate but so hard to prove.)
"P.S. to the bunch of pro-Israelis on this blog don't forget to act victimized that is what Jews do best"
No, Jews were victoms but overcame their hardship and now run the world :)
Look at Israel, it has a roboust neo-liberal economy, a tolerant and diverse society, and innovation coming out the wazo!
They don't look like victoms to me.
Being a Jew I can say that the culture in my house was "study hard, work hard, don't blame others, and for the love of g-d don't merry a shicksa!" :)
(p.s. sorry mom and dad.)
scorekeeper,
Find yourself a girl and get laid or get a life instead of writing day and night here about your Jewish illusions.
Anonymous is an option on the site so if you don't like it call 1-800- I hate anonymous blogingg.
What a loser!
If the above doesn't work out I suggest FUCK YOURSELF or let the democratic Sharon FUCK YOU.
HaHaHaHa...No I have a better idea Jooo let Jordan fuck him so they both relax
Anonymous/J000000
Even a child can discredit your logical fallacies easily, so congratulations, you win the dumbass-statement-of-the-day award. Happy now?
You have a brain. It should be time you use it.
jonas
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