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Rantings of a Sandmonkey

Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Sunday, May 29, 2005

Amr Moussa is a HACK!

My fellow egyptians will tear me a new one over this, but i don't care, it has to be said: Amr Moussa- the Arab Leauge secretary general- is a HACK and we should all stop respecting him. I know that it is blasphemy to say this for some reason, but the dude has finally lost all credibility in my opinion, especially after his performance in the WEC debate with Liz Cheney. Let me show ya what i mean: Moussa told participants at the annual regional forum – among whom were both Arab and Western economic and political leaders – that the question of democracy and reforms in the Arab world was important, but the Palestinian question would continue to dominate the scene. US First Lady Laura Bush and US Deputy Secretary of State Robert B. Zoellick spoke at the forum of "a spring in the Middle East," and praised recent democratic reforms in the region for which they gave President George W. Bush much credit. Moussa, however, did not agree with their assessment. "There will be no spring or autumn or winter or summer without solving [the Palestinian] problem," said Moussa to loud applause and cheers from the audience. "We want our friends in the United States to know that this is the consensus in this region. We are not going to change our minds, because this is a case of justice denied to people." Oh really Amr? What about our people huh? Forget about the palestinians for a second, and asnwer me: What about the egyptians? Are you saying that we will never have democracy unless the palestinian problem is resolved? Ok, forget about the egyptians: what about the Saudis? What about the Syrians? What about the algerians? What about the Libyans? They should never have democracy until the palestinians have their freedom? Isn't that just a little redicilous ?Is that your #1 priority as a secretary general of a body comprised of all arab countries and supposed to represent all arabs? Luckily, Liz pointed that shit out: But Cheney was quick to reply by saying that "it's difficult to speak of a consensus when people aren't able to speak and give you their voice." She cited the poll conducted at the WEF where people were asked what is the biggest obstacle to reform in the Middle East. Seven hundred leaders participated in the "Town Hall" poll and 64% blamed Arab governments for failure to introduce reform, while only 24% blamed the Arab-Israeli conflict. Ohhhh, good one. Let's see how you get out of that one Moussa. Moussa clarified saying, "We are not saying reform must stop and wait till we solve the Palestinian question... Now we are talking about freedom, part of the freedom is the freedom of people. Part of the rights are the rights of people and part of the rights is the self-determination of people. We don't want a double standard and I believe that Liz Cheney will hear that from each and every Arab official she is going to meet. The Palestinian question is a sine qua non for security and stability in the Middle East." We don't want a double standard? So if we demand democracy and freedom and the palestinians don't get any, that's a double standard? Wait a minute, the palestinians did have a democratic elections, and the Lebanese seem to be getting one despite the palestinians being under occupation, so what are you talking about? And i am sorry, she will hear that from every Arab official she meets? Are those the same arab officials who are representing undemocratically elected dictatorships and have only the interests of their despotic arab rulers in mind?And Amr, aren't those same rulers the ones who fund your your little Arab League and basically pay your salary? And isn't that the same reason why you never ever worked to advance democracy in arab states? Or forget about democracy, when was the last time you got mad at an arab country for human rights violations or torturing their own people? I mean, i am not asking you to critisize Egypt, cause that's where you live and you were Mubarak's secretary of State for a really long time, but how about the Gulf countries? Wait, right, they pay your salary. I forgot, my bad! Ok, go on. Attack the US for the palestinian issue, god knows you don't have a way of your own to solve it and the US sure doesn't fund your little dictators club. And it's a sure fire way to get you applause too. Right? I mean, even Liz called you up on it: The crowd applauded but Cheney said Moussa used the Palestinian issue as an excuse for hampering reforms. "I think it's very important for us not to use this issue," she said, adding that "it's a nice way to use it, Mr. secretary general, to get some applause from the audience." The audience answered with loud boos. "Let me finish," Cheney said. "It seems to me to look at who is doing what to the Palestinian people. The biggest donors are the Europeans and the US. We should stop using [the Israeli-Palestinian conflict] as an excuse not to deal with reform and not to deal with democracy." And she is right you know. Even about the donors thing. Someone once asked in one of my posts "what has the US ever done for the palestinians?" Well, check this out: The Bush administration is channeling tens of millions in additional dollars directly to the Palestinian Authority, overcoming some opposition in Congress in hopes of boosting the political fortunes of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas. Congress has approved $275 million in Palestinian aid for this year and is considering Bush's request for an additional $150 million for next year. The new direct aid was to be part of that package. (I am sure the commenter is just looking for the words to express her gratitude to the US for their aid to the "never corrupt" Palestinian Authority.Hmm.. Anyway...) Now Back to Mr. Moussa for a minute. Listen, Amr, I understand. You are a Hack. It's ok! I mean you did get kicked out of your old job as Secretary of State because you were getting way too popular with the egyptian people over your daily verbal attacks on Israel, and he considerd you a threat to his rule, so he made you Secretary General of the Arab League, and that's the only job and source of Income you currently have. I get that. I also get that in your new job, it's not enough to kiss up to Mubarak anymore, but you actually have to kiss up to every goddamn country in the league, otherwise they will challenge your rule and deny you funding, and you just wanna make money. But come on man. Have some concern for the rest of the arabs who are not palestinians, or at least have some respect for us and our opinions. Because in all honesty, if you asked the average arab living in their own country, if they would rather see their own country be democratic and free, where they keep their rulers in check and where their individual rights is respected or if they would rather stay the way they are, but have the palestinian problem resolved once and for all, and for the palestinians to be free, well, they would chose option #1. I am sorry, but that's the way it is. People are selfish like that i guess. So please, Amr, do us all a favor, and don't speak for us. And if you could, maybe you should develop some sort of backbone and start calling for reforms in arab countries yourself. Sure, it might cause you your job, but i am sure an unselfish great man like you would see the greater good in it all and not mind the sacrifise. Right? Yeah, right!


At 5/29/2005 04:10:00 AM, Blogger stefania said...

Amr Moussa and the Arab League don't care about the Arab peoples' needs and problems. To them, the palestinians are more important.

At 5/29/2005 04:26:00 AM, Blogger Mohamed said...

Stefania, the Palestinians are Arabs.

Amr Mousa was loved and became popular because of his stands against Israel, which are all well-deserved. He gets paid his salary from Arab regimes though, so it'll be hard to see him criticize those regimes and call for them to reform.

At 5/29/2005 04:31:00 AM, Blogger stefania said...

Aren't the Egyptians arabs? What about the Saudis? or the Lybians? Or the Tunisians? Or the Yemenis?

The problem is the obsession of the arab leaders toward the palestinian "cause". Over the last decades, they have ignored their peoples' problems and cared more about resolving the palestinians' .

Blaming the others for one's problems only makes you remain in the mass poverty you're living in.

It's time for the arabs to raise up ( as the Egyptians are doing and the Lebanese did ) and say: "Let the palestinians resolve their problems by themselves, you think about us ! "

The choice you face is simple: or think about resolving the problems your society and country has, or think only to the palestinians.

Are you so sure that one day the palestinians will help you if you are the one who need help ?

At 5/29/2005 04:53:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Stefania: the arab leaders don;t really care about the palestinians, they are just used as an easy excuse for them to stop reforms and look good in front of their people.We are told that the palestinians should be our prioirty, and that as long as their problems isn;t resolved, we should ignore all others. We get told repeatedly abotu how bad the palestinians have it, and then we get reminded that if it wasn;t for our brave and smart leaders we would be in the same boat as they are. So we start thinking that we shouldn't feel bad about our own shitty conditions because at the end of the day we don't have it as bad as they do, and we should feel gratefull for our leaders who have protected us from such a fate. That's it, pure and simple!

At 5/29/2005 04:57:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Mo: My question for you is:what's Amr Moussa's job title? Is it secretary general of the arab league, or the headcheerleader for the palestinian cause? Cause i am sorry, but there are 260 million arabs, and we do have other problems then the palestinians that we need adressing by him. Only he would never address them, because the people who pay his salary are the cause of those problems. So, instead, he keeps talking about the palestinians, because there is nothing else he could talk about without jeprodizing his job and source of income. Now tell me again, why should i respect someone like that?

At 5/29/2005 05:36:00 AM, Blogger Mohamed said...

Hey Stephania, why are you preaching me! I didn't ask for your advise, thank you very much!

SM, in case you didn't notice, I kinda agreed with you on the reasons why Amr Mousa doesn't criticize the Arab regimes. I didn't ask you to respect him, and I am actually astonished at those who call for him to be president.

At 5/29/2005 06:04:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

I know ya Mo, bas asly ba7eb ankoshak every now and then is all. :)

and i am with you on the not making him a President thing. In my personal opinion there has only been 1 good minister in all of Mubarak's cabinet that might make a decent president and that's Ahmed Rushdy. Another Good Option would be Dr. Abu Ghazallah, bas that's why he never stayed as VP. Yallah.

At 5/29/2005 10:24:00 AM, Blogger stefania said...

Sam, well said. I agree with you

At 5/29/2005 10:58:00 AM, Blogger Mohamed said...

Stefania, what exactly are you agreeing with? Do you want Rushdy or Abu Ghazalah as president?

At 5/29/2005 11:21:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Mo: If i were to take a wild guess, i would say that Stefania is agreeing with my comment that was adressed to her. You know, the one right before the one i adressed to you?

Oh, and don;t underestimate Stefania, she might just know all about them. The girl is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to the politics of the arab & muslim world.

At 5/29/2005 11:35:00 AM, Blogger Mohamed said...

I didn't know she was a walking encycolpedia about us. I'll do as she tells me then, and I'll vote for whoever she tells me to vote for (whatever she agreed with). Sorry for underestimating you Stefania.

At 5/29/2005 12:58:00 PM, Blogger stefania said...

In fact I meant that I agree with what Sam had said to me.

By the way, I don't even know who Rushdy or Abu Ghazalah are..

I know that there are great activists like Ayman Nour and Saad din Ibrahim for which liberation an Italian pro-human rights group have mobilized.

I know that Ayman Nour is not that much pro-american, unlike Saad din Ibrahim.

Yet, they're the real alternative to Mubarak, as they are both secular and democracy-loving.

They don't aim to become President, but they fight for the Egyptians to be free to vote in a true democratic elections.

At 5/29/2005 01:01:00 PM, Blogger stefania said...

Mohammed, come on, I am not saying who you should vote for ! Don't be so fool to say words I did not say !

I don't care who you vote for.

All I care is that the Egyptian people, as well as the other Middle Eastern people, may enjoy the same rights to democracy and rule of law I do.

Vote for whoever you want,but are you disturbed if I support the rights of the Egyptians to vote freely ?

If you're a Mubarak supporter, it's ok. Your right to support Mubarak must also be protected in a democratic egypt-

But it's time for Mubarak to resign and allow free elections, not appoint his son.

It's tens of Egyptians who say this, not me.

At 5/29/2005 01:11:00 PM, Blogger stefania said...

Mohammed, believe it or not, I put your blog among my links.

I know that you'll never do it, but I did it because, even if I disagree with you on many things,I support your right to blog without any government censorship.

At 5/29/2005 01:26:00 PM, Blogger Mohamed said...

Stefania, who is Ayman Nour and Saad Ibrahim? They're the real alternative to Mubarak! are you serious?! C'mon, I thought you were a walking encyclopedia!

(I had a much nicer comment to you, but I retracted it after your visit to my blog :) So I won't comment about me being a disturbed fool)

At 5/29/2005 05:08:00 PM, Blogger Brian H said...

Moussa might lose more than his job. Maybe that lump on top of his shoulders, for example.

At 5/29/2005 07:36:00 PM, Blogger thewiz said...

SM another great post. . . I'm gonna hafta visit more often.

I always wondered why, if the Arab countries are so concerned about the Palesinian people, why don't they do more to help?? After all, many Arab countries are very oil wealthy and could use that wealth to build schools, hospitals, factories and homes for the Palestinians. They could be living the good life by now! I had to laugh when a few years back the Saudis held a telephone pledge drive to aid the Palestinians. They ranted and raved about al the money they raised for the great cause. . . .and the money raised was less than the Royal Family spends on new Bentleys, Rolls, and BMWs each year!!

Instead, all they do is talk and whine and cry and blame it all on the US and Israel. Could it be because this serves to blame the rest of the world for the Arab peoples suffering while the Arab rulers live lives of obscene wealth and decadence?? Could they actually be keeping the Palestinians down just to serve their own purposes??

At 5/29/2005 08:22:00 PM, Anonymous UpNights said...

Imagine that all the Jewish Israelis accepted an offer to emigrate to some other area, leaving all of the land of Israel to the Palestinians. And imagine that the Palestinians were able to peacefully transition to their new sovereignty.

How would this affect the lives of other Arabs? Other than a drop in tourism income (since far fewer Christians and Jews would be visiting the region), the only effect I imagine would be that Arab politicians would have to find another excuse for their failures.

At 5/29/2005 11:34:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

(I had a much nicer comment to you, but I retracted it after your visit to my blog :) So I won't comment about me being a disturbed fool)

What is the big deal of her linking to you or visiting your blog. Jeez Louise how degrading!

At 5/30/2005 12:01:00 AM, Blogger Twosret said...

I have very limited time to comment on this post. I will sum up few ideas and will do my best to come back later to post more comments.

Israel history of the unrest in the Middle East speaks for itself. As long as Israel owning nuclear weapons and supported by America blindly there will be no rest in the Middle East.

As long as the big map of Israel is to steal arab land than there will be no peace. As long as the Israeli Gov. supporting extremists and keeping them as Gov. officials there will be no peace. You can't ask for peace and occupation at the same time.

Amr Moussa knows very well that Arab leaders supported by the American administration have never contributed to democracy. Most of them are corrupt and America wants to keep them corrupt.

There were never democratic elections under occupation please check your sources.

Amr Moussa is not the only one out there screaming his lungs out for Palestinians sake, the real people of Egypt, Morocco, Yemen, Saudi etc.... always demonstrate to free Palestine.

Read my lips SM

The support of the PALESTINIANS is the will of the arab people that are supressed by the tyrants and the American Puppets (Mubarak, Fahd, etc..)

I can only add Saad El Din Ibrahim to the corrupt list of Egyptian Tyrants!

At 5/30/2005 03:31:00 AM, Blogger stefania said...

Twoser: din Ibrahim has been one of the main victims of the Mubarak's regime.

Please show a bit of respect. The Italian Radical Party has fought for his release. Emma Bonino lives in Cairo and has Egyptian friends. She is learning arabic and is a great activist.

Mohammed, I did not mean insult you when I say "fool". I said so in a non-insulting way.

Let us make peace.

At 5/30/2005 04:10:00 AM, Blogger Mohamed said...

No worries Stefania. I am not insulted.


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