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Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Thursday, July 28, 2005

Sharon inflicted with "Lashes of fire" curse!

Far right Jewish activists who are not happy with Sharon Ghaza disengagment plan but know they can't unseat him are resorting to witchcraft to get rid of him. They cast a pulsa denura , aramaic for "Lashes of fire", death curse on him. Far-right activist Michael Ben-Horin explained that the point of the curse was to exempt a human from having to kill Ariel Sharon, allowing "the angels of destructions" to do it instead. I would be worried if I were him though: Those same activists instigated that same spell several months prior to the assassination of former prime minister Yitzhak Rabin. Hmm..........

8 Comments:

At 7/28/2005 12:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anat from Israel said...

You are right to be worried, Sandmonkey. No matter that most Israelis laugh at this idiotic "curse", it is enough if one single madman believes in it and proceeds to carry it out, as was the case with Rabin. This is why I do hope the cursers are arrested for incitement.

 
At 7/28/2005 12:58:00 AM, Anonymous Ruth said...

My personal opion is that the "pulsa dinura" is less to be worried about than the "din rodef". After all people who really believe in cursing don't need to do anything more about it. Din rodef on the other hand declares that somebody has to be slain because if he/she continues to live the life of many Jews is endangered. Everybody believing in this Judgement (din) is compelled to fulfill it.

Incidently both were done prior to Rabin's murder.

 
At 7/28/2005 04:35:00 AM, Anonymous Highlander said...

okay so that 'din rodef' is a sort of Jewish fatwa if I understood well ? the person is excomunicated outside is 'din' i.e. religion ?

 
At 7/28/2005 07:47:00 AM, Anonymous Anat from Israel said...

Yes and no, Highlander. "Din" in Hebrew means "law" or "ruling" (I suppose that in Arabic it means "religion", and the parallelism is interesting). "Din Rodef" is a ruling postulating that the person at issue is an Enemy. Now, I don't know what is the authority of fatwas in the Muslim world, but the authoriy of any such ruling in Judaism is definitely limited to followers of the rabbi who issued it, which may be only a handful of people. So neither the "Din Rodef" nor the curse has much meaning for most Israelis but, as I said, a single deranged believer is enough for carrying out a crime as a result.

 
At 7/28/2005 08:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anat from Israel said...

Yes and no, Highlander. "Din" in Hebrew means "law" or "ruling" (I suppose that in Arabic it means "religion", and the parallelism is interesting). "Din Rodef" is a ruling postulating that the person at issue is an Enemy. Now, I don't know what is the authority of fatwas in the Muslim world, but the authoriy of any such ruling in Judaism is definitely limited to followers of the rabbi who issued it, which may be only a handful of people. So neither the "Din Rodef" nor the curse has much meaning for most Israelis but, as I said, a single deranged believer is enough for carrying out a crime as a result.

 
At 7/28/2005 12:12:00 PM, Anonymous highlander said...

Thanks Anat , for the explanation, I believe 'din' in Arabic additionaly means 'way' and 'path' and 'rule', it just most commonly means religion now. Someone into linguistics could probably explain it bit , but it is my understanding that Hebrew and Arabic do have common roots as I always find a lot of similarities.

 
At 7/28/2005 02:11:00 PM, Blogger stefania said...

Well, dear, I disagree with you on this issue.

Thanks God it's only one issue ( I hope so ) I disagree with you about

 
At 7/28/2005 02:12:00 PM, Blogger stefania said...

But I am not an extremist right-wing.

As Sharansky says,one cannot let a population in the hands of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the corrupt and dictatorial PNA regime.

The palestinians deserve democracy, not to live under dictatorial leaderships.

Just my humble opinion

 

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