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Rantings of a Sandmonkey

Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Wednesday, July 27, 2005

Van Gogh murderer gets to live?

Okay, it's official: the dutch as pansies. Van Gogh gets shot at and stabbed in the name of Islam and his murderer gets life in prison. WTF? This is why I like the death penalty. It makes sure whomever killed you would regret it immedietly, and not over the years as they get older behind bars. Just end this shit. Send him directly to hell and let God decide what to do with him. The dutch are far too tolerant I swear!


At 7/27/2005 05:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only good reason for the death penalty is to decisely insure that the person does not commit crimes again. Thus, if you have a weak prison system and people escape frequently, then this would be a good reason for death penalty. Another would be if this person is a part of a larger insurgency against the established democratic state. This would be an excellent case use of the death penalty to insure that the members of this insurgency do not attempt to free others from the prison.

Otherwise, I think the death penalty is a bad idea. We have made more than 30 mistakes here in the USA where a person scheduled to be killed was subsequently freed once new evidence came to light. Moroever, the cost of legal process actually exceeds the lifetime prison costs! Thus, it is mistake-prone and more costly. Just keep them in prison for life.

At 7/27/2005 05:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Life is worse.

The person has to sit there for decades and think about their crime. Also they get harrassed by the other inmates. On the other hand, who wants to support them with our tax money?

The Dutch as too lenient? They learned from WW2.


At 7/27/2005 09:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Death is what he wanted. If they put him to death he would be a "martyr". Better that he sit in prison. They should give him the job of serving and cleaning up after any "infidels" that may be in that prison.


At 7/27/2005 01:29:00 PM, Blogger Gluon said...

Nice site, Sandmonkey, and congratulations on the successful demonstration.

Regarding punishments - there are some punishments that have the benefit of discouraging others who might be thinking of committing a similar crime.

Sentence him to spend the rest of his life on a pig farm, tending the pigs and cleaning up after them. You might even force him to sleep among the pigs, so it's all pig all the time.

I know some will criticize this as culturally insensitive, and yes it is, but will it deter others? Will they decide to commit their terrorist acts in another country instead? A comfy prison in great britain or germany is preferable to decades amongst the pigs, no?

I think some creative sentencing is in order. Maybe some of you can come up with some other punishments that a young jihadist would find too horrible to take a chance facing.

At 7/27/2005 04:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well SM, murder is not the answer. Killing this guy won't stop others from doing the same act. Killing this guy will only bring the entire Dutch court system down to the level of the terrorists. I do not believe in the death penelty. I think it's murder, to kill another human being. Wheather it comes out a sentence from a judge or a fatwa from a terrorist.

And why do you cosider death as a punishment. It is not. It is the normal end to all living creatures. And who knows what will happen in the after life?

Life and death decisions should not be in the hand of a human being.


At 7/27/2005 06:58:00 PM, Blogger Tsedek said...

He told a family-member that if the dead-penalty would exist in the Netherlands he would beg for it.
No martyrdom for that scumbag.

At 7/28/2005 11:28:00 AM, Blogger Mirco said...

The first thing to do in this would be to strip him of citizenship
(he would be no more a dutch citizen)

As he is only one or the number is low, this penalty is not worth enought to be implemented, I see Iraq a better place to use it:
When you capture a suicide terrorist or they accomplices give them two options:
1) Immediate, total and true collaboration and a long sentence like 10 years;
2) Be punished with the amputations of his arms and legs (the complete limbs), then eyeballs, then tongue.
Be sure him survive to this, then turn him to his family/friends for a long life to care.

I'm sure this would deter many would be martirs and boost they will to collaborate.


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