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Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Thursday, March 09, 2006

Amr Khaled vs. Al Qaradawi

Fight Fight Fight


At 3/09/2006 04:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amr khaled is my kind of muslim, hes religious and I'm hoping he doesn't hate.

I have noticed that relationship to be quite prevalent amongst the religious folk.

When someone sees "the light" whether they're born again christians or muslims up holding the quran, I have noticed they either hate other people that have different beliefs or they love all people because God says so.

I hope Amr Khaled is the latter.

At 3/09/2006 08:59:00 AM, Blogger EducSubNorm said...

It is said that "The 38-year-old Khaled is heading to Denmark — where the drawings were first published — for a conference Friday during which Christian and Muslim religious leaders will discuss the fallout of the prophet cartoons."

Is it not curious this assumption that if you're not Muslim you must be Christian and vv. There must be many folk like me who are neither but who nevertheless have an opinion - and one of my opinions (to nearly plagiarise) is that Christians are just Muslims disguised as human beings. So confer away guys.

Got a beautiful Word Verification this time - ffuxu - good one.

At 3/09/2006 09:43:00 AM, Blogger waterdragon52 said...

In the end, the Amr Khaleds will lose out the religiously inclined to the Al Qawadaris, as the latter will have a full arsenal of holy texts to thump. What I fear is that the Christian clerks will be dorks who boo-hoo-hoo over offending religious sensibilities, even if the criticism is fair and deserving. The best news out of Denmark, other than that J-P and the government didn't beg for their lives, is that Denmark's Muslim majority, which is fairly secular and assimilated, is getting organized to punt the religious fanatics.

Otherwise, the fight I look forward to is Wafa Sultan taking on Al Qawadari. Now, that would be a fight.

At 3/09/2006 10:21:00 AM, Blogger Egypeter said...

Someone needs to fatwa Qardawi's ass...and quick.

At 3/09/2006 01:26:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Muslims' uprising hasn't born fruit yet, and the West wants us to get out of it without any gains,"

Thats not true: the muslim world is loosing by the minute, because NOBODY understands the way they have used this incident. The best thing to do for muslims, is to close the case and try to repair some of the incredible damage that they have inflicted upon the reputation of "the religion of peace"!
I simply cant understand why somebody wants to smash their own rep this much!

At 3/09/2006 04:06:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Amr Khaled will participate in a conference about cultural and religious dialogue. It's organised by the Danish Institute for International Studies, so it's not a religious conference. The people invited are researchers, professors and international moslims.

Abu Laban - one of the imams travelling the ME with the collections of cartoons, inaccuracies and close relations to the Moslim Brotherhood - is not invited as a participant. He's saying that he will not come as a second class participant. He says that Amr Khaled should have contacted the imams to be informed about the situation before the conference.

I will look forward to hear what he has to say.

Danish person

At 3/09/2006 10:35:00 PM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Waterdragon: It isn't just the religious tub-thumping. Religious people, particularly Muslims, are taught to believe they are all in danger of hell. Christians hear 'we are all sinners' because that's what condemns them. Islam stresses 'unbelievers go to hell,' so they are taught that they are not strong enough in their belief. If they haven't learned to doubt their teachers, both groups fall for the words of anyone who claims to be 'better/more religious than they are.'

No time tonight, but tomorrow I'll put together a collection of Qardawisms from his recent appearances in the MEMRI files. This guy is even scarier than you think.

At 3/10/2006 05:52:00 AM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

from a Friday sermon by Sheik Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, aired on Qatar TV on February 3, 2006.
The governments must be pressured to demand that the UN adopt a clear resolution or law that categorically prohibits affronts to prophets – to the prophets of the Lord and His messengers, to His holy books, and the religious holy places. This is so that nobody could cause them harm. They enacted such laws in order to protect the Jews and Judaism. Like some Danes have said: "We can mock Jesus and his mother." They were asked: "Can you mock the Jews?" Here they stopped. The Jews are protected by laws - the laws that protect Semitism, and nobody can say even one word about the number [of victims] in the alleged Holocaust. Nobody can do so, even if he is writing an M.A. or Ph.D. thesis, and discussing it scientifically. Such claims are not acceptable. When Roger Garaudy talked about it, he was sentenced to jail, according to the laws. We want laws protecting the holy places, the prophets, and Allah's messengers.


Before ending my sermon, I would like to issue several warnings. The first warning is directed at our feeble governments, which are trying to gauge America's position: Will America be pleased with us or not if we rage about this? They fear the Creator more than they fear His creation [sic], and try to please people more than they try to please Allah. To those feeble governments we say: Take a courageous stand. Stand up and prove that you are Muslim, and that you protect this religion with zeal. We want our governments not to split from their peoples. The masses throughout the Islamic world have made their position clear, They have displayed their rage. The governments must not split away from these masses. The second warning I direct at the Westerners, the Americans, and the Europeans who follow them, who claim to be fighting terrorism, and struggling against violence throughout the world.

I say to them: Your silence over such crimes, which offend the Prophet of Islam and insult his great nation, is what begets violence, generates terrorism, and makes the terrorists say: Our governments are doing nothing, and we must avenge our Prophet ourselves. This is what creates terrorism and begets violence.


We say to those Europeans: We can get by without you, but you cannot get by without us. We can get by without your products. We will buy from China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, from the Asian countries. We will say what King Faysal – may he rest in peace – said in 1973, in the days of the petroleum war. He said to them: We can get by without the petrol, and return to our days of yore. We will make do with milk and dates. We will drink the milk of our camels, and eat the dates from our palm trees. King Faysal said this when there was a threat to Arab honor. It is all the more true when there is a threat to our Islamic honor, to our prophets, and our religion.
aired on Qatar TV on February 25, 2006.

We are fighting them in the name of Islam, because Islam commands us to fight whoever plunders our land, and occupies our country. All the school of Islamic jurisprudence - the Sunni, the Shiite, the Ibadhiya - and all the ancient and modern schools of jurisprudence - agree that any invader, who occupies even an inch of land of the Muslims, must face resistance. The Muslims of that country must carry out the resistance, and the rest of the Muslims must help them. If the people of that country are incapable or reluctant, we must fight to defend the land of Islam, even if the local [Muslims] give it up.

They must not allow anyone to take a single piece of land away from Islam. That is what we are fighting the Jews for. We are fighting them... Our religion commands us... We are fighting in the name of religion, in the name of Islam, which makes this Jihad an individual duty, in which the entire nation takes part, and whoever is killed in this [Jihad] is a martyr. This is why I ruled that martyrdom operations are permitted, because he commits martyrdom for the sake of Allah, and sacrifices his soul for the sake of Allah.

We do not disassociate Islam from the war. On the contrary, disassociating Islam from the war is the reason for our defeat. We are fighting in the name of Islam.

Everything will be on our side and against Jews on [Judgment Day], at that time, even the stones and the trees will speak, with or without words, and say: "Oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim, there's a Jew behind me, come and kill him." They will point to the Jews. It says "servant of Allah," not "servant of desires," "servant of women," "servant of the bottle," "servant of Marxism," or "servant of liberalism"... It said servant of Allah."

When the Muslims, the Arabs, and the Palestinians enter a war, they do it to worship Allah. They enter it as Muslims. The hadith says: "Oh Muslim." It says "oh Muslim," not "oh Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian, or Arab nationalist." No, it says: "Oh Muslim." When we enter [a war] under the banner of Islam, and under the banner of serving Allah, we will be victorious.


excerpts from a Friday sermon by Sheikh Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which was aired on Qatar TV on December 2, 2005.

Al-Qaradhawi: These polytheist pagan invaders were joined by the Jews - the Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe, who remained in Al-Madina, and who did to the Prophet Muhammad things that require punishment, by forging an alliance with the Banu Nazir tribe against the Prophet. But the Prophet forgave them and allowed them to remain in Al-Madina. Nevertheless, their nature got the better of them, and they violated the treaty and the covenant of protection between them and the Prophet.


How great is the similarity between past and present, brothers. We Muslims are besieged by many forces that want to uproot the Muslims under various pretexts - the pretext of terrorism, the pretext of fundamentalism, this pretext or that pretext. The goal is to fight this nation. They want to eradicate the nation of Islam.


We are now under a siege that resembles the Siege of the Trench, the Siege of Akhzab. But we will be victorious, Allah willing – despite the traps set by Judaism and the Crusaders, and despite the deeds of those who set traps and who deceive.


He decided that the only treatment they merited was to have their fighters killed, their women taken captive, and their property seized as booty.


Some Orientalists claim that Muhammad was cruel to the Jews, but this is how determination should be. One must be firm when firmness is warranted, and gentle when gentleness is warranted.


Now I call upon the Sunnis to participate en masse in the next elections, to present their candidacy, and to vote. Some clerics issued fatwas saying that elections under the American occupation are forbidden. I say: No! Necessity makes them permissible

pray for Allah to open our brothers' eyes, to make the present in Iraq better than the past, and the future better than the present. I pray for Allah to protect Iraq from overt and covert civil strife, to protect it from the evils of divisiveness and racism, and to protect it from the whispers of all satans, the human satans, the satans among the djinn, the American satans, and other satans.


The following are excerpts from a counter-terrorism conference of religious scholars in Sharm Al-Sheikh, Egypt, which aired on Iqra TV on August 22, 2005

Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: Dr. Said Ramadhan (Al-Bouti) stressed the legitimacy of defense, saying it is a legitimate right in Palestine and Iraq. I think that saying it is a legitimate right is not enough, because a right is something that can be relinquished. This is a duty. All scholars say that defending an occupied homeland is an individual duty applying to every Muslim. Reducing this duty to "a right," which can be relinquished –is a kind of depreciation.

We must stress this point, and emphasize that is it the rights of those defending their homeland. It is not only a right, but also their duty. I am amazed by what Dr. Muhammad Rafat 'Othman said.

This has nothing to do with suicide. This man does not want to commit suicide, but rather to cause great damage to the enemy, and this is the only method he can use to cause such damage. Since this method did not exist in the past, we cannot find rulings about it in the ancient jurisprudence. We may find rulings about plunging into the enemy and risking one's life, even in cases of certain death – so be it. The truth is that we should refrain from raising this issue, because doubting it is like joining the Zionists and Americans in condemning our brothers in Hamas, the Jihad, the Islamic factions, and the resistance factions in Iraq. it is as if we are joining them.

We all condemn violence or terrorism, although, to tell the truth, I personally don't like the word "terrorism". I always say "violence". I have written a book called Islam and Violence. But since this word is so widespread, I use it. We all condemn the (terrorist) operations. We condemned them before we came to this conference. We condemned the bombings in London, Madrid, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Egypt. We condemned them as individuals and institutions. This is something everyone agrees on. We cannot say we pat these misguided boys on the back, but we do want to listen to them. They have gone astray, so we want to treat them in a way that will set them straight, and bring them closer to us. We don't want to be like prosecutors, demanding their execution. We want to treat them the way clerics treat their students, the way fathers treat their sons.


The following are excerpts from a show about the culture of martyrdom, which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on July 22, 2005.

Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi:

These operations do not target civilians. The Israeli society is a military society. It is well known that they have militarized their society. All Israeli society, its men and its women...

Reporter: Hamas' strategy of targeting Israelis has gained the support of must Muslim clerics, to the point that Sheik Al-Qaradhawi appeared on Al-Jazeera TV and issued a fatwa permitting the killing of Israelis in these operations.

Sheik Al-Qaradhawi:...as I said, when a brother blows himself up today... The brother who blows himself up at the bus station, where all the soldiers who come back are gathering... He does not intend to kill a child or anything, but rather tries to kill people who are soldiers - either soldiers on active duty or soldiers on reserve duty.


Following are excerpts from the interrogation of a Saudi terrorist captured in Iraq, aired by Al-Iraqiya TV (Iraq) on March 31, 2005:

'Abd Al-Rahim: I read the communique of the 26 clerics, and (I heard) some lectures and sermons from "For you, Baghdad," as well as Sheik Al-'Anzi and other doctors who appear on TV, like Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, who issued a (fatwa) ruling that any American in Iraq must be killed.


The following are excerpts from an interview with Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi. Al-Jazeera TV aired the interview on February 2, 2005:

Sheikh Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: In order to really implement religious law we must provide an atmosphere of freedom. First of all, people must have the opportunity to say: "We want religious law." The secularists say: "No, the people don't want religious law. We provide them with liberty so they..." What do you want? Do you want to be ruled by Muhammad's law, or by Marx's law, or by Napoleon's law, or by the Americans' law? In which direction do you pray -- to Mecca, to Washington, to London or to Paris?

When the tyrannical regime in Iran fell, the Shah's regime, which worked for the Americans, and ruled the people by bloodshed, oppression, prisons, and blood, when this regime fell, and Khomeini came to power, they held a referendum: Do you want to be ruled by Islamic law? Ninety-nine percent said: Yes, we want Islamic law. Therefore, freedom should be in the service of Islam. I think that our peoples, for the most part-- there is a faction that has become secularist, Western, and Marxist -- but the vast majority of this people still believes that Islam is the solution and the source of authority and the foundation. They don't want to import anything from the East or from the West.


The following are excerpts from an interview with Sheik Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi that was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on January 16, 2005:

Sheik Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: IIslam has accepted the Jews with open arms, and has blessed the relationship with them because they are the "People of the Book." One of the first things the Prophet Muhammad did when he went to Al-Madina was to make a pact with the Jews.

The Prophet Muhammad's attitude toward the Jews was of utmost generosity. The problem started because of the Jews. They were the ones who were treacherous and violated the pact. They even made an agreement with the raiders of Al-Madina, and attacked the Jews- I mean, attacked Al-Madina - with the Quraysh and Ghaftan tribes, and with the pagans. Unfortunately, the Jews supported them and deserted the Muslims at a time when they were most needed. The Jews wanted to take advantage of this opportunity in order to annihilate the Muslims and totally eradicate them.

Therefore, the problem with the Jews is not one of faith or religious laws. The problem is the covetous aspirations that have characterized their attitude since the days of the Prophet Muhammad, that brought this position toward them since the days of Muhammad, and later on in our times, since they began to covet the land of Muhammad's Nocturnal Journey, the holy and blessed land of Palestine.

As I've said, there is no problem between Judaism, as a religion, and us. We aren't hostile to the Zionists because they are Jews or because they are Semites. They keep raising the issue of [anti-]Semitism, and they brandish this sward at anyone who... We are Semites. We, as Arabs, are Semites. They are the children of Israel and we are the children of Ishmael. We are cousins.


The following are excerpts from a Friday sermon on Qatar TV by Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi:

Al-Qaradhawi: In the last few months, a war was launched against yours truly. It is a ruthless media war, spanning most of the world in the East and the West. In this war, weapons of all kinds were used. This war was waged by global Zionism and its strategic partner, the USA. They recruited the soldiers and used mercenary writers and the reprehensible TV channels to attack me. They unleashed rabid dogs here and there to bite me with their fangs and bark at me with their voices. I can say that America has proven its ability to mobilize the media… The media, the press, the radio, and the television and to recruit whoever it wants to condemn someone or another, cast aspersions and attack someone or another. I am not surprised at the recruiting of Western media in America and Europe against me. But what really astonishes me and saddens me is the recruiting of the Arab media. The Arab media has begun to attack me at every opportunity. The newspapers have opened their doors – as well as the radio and television - to every mercenary writer that wants to attack me or to every ignoramus who does not even know me. They have opened the doors for them so they could accuse me of every possible crime. I have become the number one inciter for terrorism in the world; I have become the one who calls for the abduction and execution of hostages; I have become a preacher of violence; I have become… peculiar accusations… It is one of this world's misfortunes and the peculiarities of these days that a man must defend himself against such false allegations.

Who said that I preach terrorism and killing?! This is astonishing! Astonishing that a man faces false accusations while he is still alive and people know him and can serve as witnesses. But there are people who lie, and lie, and lie, until they believe themselves and try to make others believe them.

I don't claim things that are not in Islam and I don't invent an Islam of my own, but people invent lies about me, as if I were living in a secluded convent or in some subterranean cellar. Absolutely not! I don't believe in secret activities or organizations. I operate in full view of the public eye. People read my books and hear my sermons on the TV channels, my lectures are published for everyone to read, on my Internet website, and on the Islam Online website. People can familiarize themselves with my positions. I have nothing to hide from people, but they want to try me in an international trial. Let them try me. I do not fear these trials. I only fear Allah.


The following are excerpts from a Friday Sermon by Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi on Qatar TV:

Al-Qaradhawi: People must ask themselves why this earthquake occurred in this area and not in others. Why did it occur at this time and not another? Why? Whoever examines these areas discovers that they are tourism areas. Tourism areas are areas where the forbidden acts are widespread, as well as alcohol consumption, drug use, and acts of abomination. Whoever knows about tourism in our age knows this. These areas were notorious because of this type of modern tourism, which has become known as "sex tourism". This is a type of trade forbidden by international law. It is the third type of trade that is forbidden in the world. After the trafficking in drugs and trafficking in weapons, comes "sex tourism", in which prostitution and sexual perversion are traded. They even traffic in children. They bring poor children to be used in sexual perversions. In these areas there are about 40 children who are used, and their pictures have been posted on the Internet. Young children that are used for sexual perversions. Don't they deserve punishment from Allah?!


The following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Yusouf Al-Qaradhawi on Al-Jazeera TV (November 28, 2004)

The West is not one entity. Can we accuse the entire west of being against the family? No. In the West there are people who defend the family. Religious people generally feel that the family is the basis for society. Not all Americans... even the extreme Christian right that fights us protects the family, but Allah decreed that they want to ruin our families. But there are strong tendencies in the West to destroy the family. An example of this is the marriage of men with men and women with women. Unfortunately, some clergymen welcome this and perform these marriage ceremonies in their churches. In addition, several Western parliaments have permitted this and issued laws about it so it has won legal recognition. This stands in contrast to Christianity, Judaism, and all religions. All international conventions and laws determine that marriage is a bond between a man and a woman in a legitimate and recognized fashion. Only this is considered marriage. Same-sex marriages are totally unacceptable. They want to make the perversion [ie homosexuality] widespread.


I said: "I don't have an opinion on homosexuals." My opinion is the same as decreed in Judaism, Christianity, and the Islam, and which appears in the Torah, the New Testament, and the Koran, and which was announced by the Pope of the Vatican, the founders of Christianity, the rabbis of Judaism, and the moral philosophers. This is the opinion of all of these. I have no personal opinion on this matter. They want to make the pervert... They are called "perverts" and the phenomena is called "perversion." Perversion means a deviation from the norm. They want to make this perversion a natural thing. How can a pervert be natural? This is what they want.

They attack Islam because of issues such as wife-beating, which is one of the things I was accused of. They claimed that I supported wife beating. I don't say that wives should be beaten and I don't like wife beating. The Prophet did not encourage wife beating. Out of more than 6,000 verses of the Koran, there is one verse that deals with a condescending and disobedient wife. It is said there that one of the methods of treatments is, "And beat them." This is not obligatory, but it is permitted and it does not suit all wives. All Koranic commentators agree on this. Beating does not benefit all wives, but it is suitable for some. The Prophet said, "The best among you do not beat." The best people do not beat their wives and the Prophet never beat a woman, a slave, or a beast. Even the beast--a donkey or a camel--he never beat a beast. He said, "Are you not ashamed to beat a wife and then sleep with her?" One contradicts the other. Even if it comes to beatings, with what does one beat? A hadith of the Prophet says that when one of the Concubines angered him, he said to her, "If not for the punishments of the Judgment Day, I would hurt you with this toothpick." He held a toothpick that he used to clean his teeth. It is not that he would grab a whip or a board and break her bones. These are not the [permitted] beatings.


Dr. Yusouf Al-Qaradhawi: They want us to teach the religion without Jihad. They want us to omit the raids from the Prophet's biography, to omit the Islamic conquests from history, to omit Jihad from religious jurisprudence, to omit Khaled Ibn Al-Walid, Saladin, Qutuz, Muhammad the Conqueror, to omit the Islamic heroes from our history… They don't want us to form a strong homogenous personality that defends its land, its honor, and its holy places


I have forbidden the killing of Americans. When I was asked, I said that I forbid the killing of civilians. I said that it is permitted to kill only those who fight. Islam forbids killing women, youth, and so on. I said so openly, but I asked: "Who is a civilian?" When engineers, laborers, and technicians enter (Iraq) with the American army, are they considered civilians? Is the fighter only the one inside the tank or also the one servicing it? I am speaking of the interpretation of the word "civilian." If it is established that a certain person is a civilian, his killing is forbidden. We in the Muslims Clerics Union issued a statement yesterday, telling our brothers in Iraq that they must make sure… The resistance in Iraq must obey the religious rulings. A civilian must not be killed, only a fighter may be killed. The resistance cannot kidnap people unjustly.


Sheikh Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, one of the leading religious authorities in Sunni Islam, was asked about the murder of American citizen Nick Berg in Iraq during his weekly religious show on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar) . Following is a verbatim translation of Al-Qaradhawi's position regarding the murder, as it appeared on Al-Jazeera TV on May 16, 2004:

Host: Many young people have called and asked you for a brief commentary about the story of the slaughter of a hostage. In a nutshell, is what happened Islamic or un-Islamic?

Qaradhawi: The truth is that what happened is a reaction to these barbaric acts (in Abu Ghureib prison). Had you asked me about this another time I would have had a different answer. But what could they possibly do in face of this horrifying, frightening barbarism that cannot be imagined or accepted…

I say that the general atmosphere affects behavior. You cannot separate a man's behavior from the general atmosphere. Even though Islam states that prisoners should be treated decently, there are those who allow killing a prisoner in certain circumstances. The atmosphere is what caused them to adopt this position even though the method of slaughter has no justification in our days.

However, these pictures (from Abu Ghureib prison) that we have seen published all over the world caused much anxiety and every one relates to the issue in different ways. We must refer to the subject from this angle and in this framework.


Dr. Sheikh Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi explained his support of suicide operations on his weekly religious program on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar) . Following are excerpts from his comments:

Sheikh Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: There are clerics who oppose martyrdom (ie. suicide) operations in Palestine. By these operations Allah has compensated the Palestinians for their lack of strength. They do not, as the Zionists do, have Apache helicopters, warplanes, tanks, missiles. Allah has compensated them for this with these human bombs. This is divine justice.

(God) gives the weak a weapon for self-defense that the strong, despite his military and nuclear arsenals, can do nothing against. There are clerics who condemn this and even say that these are suicide operations that are not allowed in Islam. We need a religious law to clarify this issue.


In his Firday sermon, broadcast live by the official Qartari TV channel on April 9, 2004, Sheikh Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi talked about the situation in Iraq and mentioned the murder of four Americans in Al-Falluja, whose bodies had been mutilated. Following is a translation of excerpts from his sermon:

Oh Americans, leave Iraq for its people? These Americans don't appreciate people's value; they do not know the values ruling people, the traditions ruling people. They enter homes, search people, uncover women, uncover?They do not respect the women's honor or their modesty. They don't take values into consideration and they have no shame.

It so happened that some people killed a few Americans and mutilated the corpses of four of these soldiers. The Americans went out of their minds: How could their soldiers' corpses be mutilated? They wanted to take revenge on all the people of Falluja because of those few individuals. This is the logic of the terrorists themselves! They fight the terrorists claiming that the terrorists do not distinguish between a civilian and a non-civilian and fight entire groups because of one or two individuals. They do the same. The terrorists did what they did, perhaps, because of their inability to realize their rights and their despairing of the chance to even the score with the oppressors. But you are a superpower. How come you behave like the terrorists? How could you punish an entire people because four corpses were mutilated?

At 3/10/2006 06:08:00 AM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Why did I take this amount of time on Qardawisms? Because this is not a half-educated madrassah student like Mullah Omar, or a Saudi figurehead like Osama (I still think Al-Zawahiri is the brains there) but someone whose sermons get broadcast on Al-Jazeera.

This next quote, not from Qardie, but from
former Jordanian minister of religious endowments 'Ali Al-Faqir

is included because after the last post, we need a good laugh. Islamic science:

'Ali Al-Faqir: One may ask: "How can a tree possibly talk? The hadith means that we should fight them with sticks and stones." This is not true. We either accept these things as fact or as a metaphor. If you cannot accept it as a fact then it's a metaphor. As long as it is impossible to accept the facts...

But brothers, the Prophet has told us that the time will come when man will talk without using his voice - the cell-phone, the cordless phone. This cordless phone - where did it come from? From the earth. Plastic comes from petroleum. The wires, the iron, and the copper – where do they come from? From the earth. Furthermore, some communication devices are now made of wood. It is not impossible that "the tree and the stone will speak" refers to the advanced scientific instruments that warn you about people. Today you have, for example, early warning stations in Sinai. Early warning stations exist in the Golan. They give the Israelites information about the other side's movements.

Host: Sir, this is if we interpret (the hadith) metaphorically. But isn't it possible that the tree and stone will actually talk? That the tree itself will talk, and the stone itself will talk?

'Ali Al-Faqir: Sir, it has been proven scientifically that the trees and the stones have languages of their own. But we don't have the ability to invent the instruments that will convey the tree's voice and the stone's voice to us.

Science has progressed so much that there are instruments that are placed in gardens. The plant produces certain waves, which are received by the instrument, and the plant says: "I am thirsty, water me, I am sick, heal me."

At 3/10/2006 06:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah, I see it all so clearly now. The trees are saying, "hug me". The stones are saying, "throw me" and the plants are saying, "smoke me" and baby, that crazy mofo has been partaking of the plants a bit tooooo much. BW48

At 5/13/2006 09:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

التحذير من عمرو خالد الذي يدافع عن إبليس وينهى عن لعن إبليس
إن الحمد لله نحمده ونستعينه ونستهديه ونشكره، ونعوذ بالله من
شرور أنفسنا وسيئات أعمالنا، من يهد الله فلا مضلّ له ومن يضلل فلا
هادي له، والصلاة والسلام على سيدنا محمد الصادق الوعد الأمين وعلى
إخوانه النبيين والمرسلين . أما بعد فقد قال الله تعالى :
يا أَيها الَّذِين ءامنوا اتُقوا اللهَ وُقوُلوا قَولاً سدِيدا . سورة الأحزاب الآية 70
إخوة الإيمان إن القولَ السديد هو القول الموافق لكتاب الله القرءان
الكريم المواف  ق لحديثِ رسولِ الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، لذا فإنا
نحذّركم من عبارة قالها صديق لإبليس لعنه الله في عصرنا الحاليّ وهي
قوله" إنّ الرسول انا عن لعن إبليس" فلا شك أنّ قول عمرو خالد :
( الرسول انا عن لعن إبليس ) غير موافق لكتاب الله الذي فيه (قَالَ
يا إِبلِي  س ما لَك أَلاَّ ت ُ كونَ مع ال  ساجِدِين قَالَ لَم أَ ُ كن لأَس  جد لِبشرٍ
خلَقْته مِن صلْصالٍ من حمإٍ مسنونٍ قَالَ فَاخ  رج مِنها فَإِنك رجِيم
وإنَّ عليك اللعنةَ إلى يومِ الدِّينِ ). سورة الحِجر الآيات
. 32 و 33 و 34 و 35
"أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم " الرجيم معناه الملعون هذا لعن
لإبليس أما ما رواه أبو داود وأحمد والنسائي من أنّ رجلا قال: تعس
الشيطان . أي هلك فقال الرسول" لا تقل تعس الشيطان فإنك إذا
قلت تعس الشيطان تعاظم حتى يصير مثل الجبل وإذا قلت بسم الله
تصاغر حتى يصير مثل الذباب" . فهذا ليس فيه ما يدعيه عمرو خالد
الذي قال ("دا النبي انا إنا نحنا نلعن الشيطان قال فإنه يتعاظم") إنما
فيه النه  ي عن هذه العبارة فقط لأن هذه الكلمة تعِس إبليس تصعب
على إبليس فيقابلُ قائلها بأن يتعاظم بدلَ أن ينكسر فينتفخ مِثْلَ الجبل ،
من هذه العبارة تعِس إبليس يأخذه الكبرياء فينتفخ أما إذا قال قائلٌ لعنة
الله على إبليس فإنه يتصاغر من هذه الكلمة لأنَّ إبليس يتصاغر بذكرِ
اسم الله . فلا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله.
- ومن أشد وأغرب أقوال عمرو خالد ما قاله في شريطه المسمى
"ءادم وحواء" باللهجة المصرية :( يا جماعة إبليس كفر أو ما كفرش ؟)
ثم يقول : ( لأ ، ما كفرش لأنه قال "رب فبما أغويتني" ) ا.ه
أي أن إبليس على زعم عمرو خالد لم يكفر لأنه قال " رب " عن
الله سبحانه وتعالى .
وذا يكذب عمرو خالد قول الله تعالى : وإِذْ قُلْنا لِلْملاَئِكَةِ
اس  ج  دواْ لآدم فَسج  دواْ إِلاَّ إِبلِيس أَبى واستكْبر وكَانَ مِن الْكَافِرِين.
سورة البقرة 34
- ويزعم عمرو خالد في كتابه المسمى" عبادة المؤمن" ص 174
أن عبادة الذكر لها شرط واحد وهو الإكثار ولا ينفع معها القليل
على حد زعمه . ثم يقول في ص 175 :" ولذا لا ينفع أن نقول
مرة واحدة مثلا : أستغفر الله " ا.ه
وبطلان هذا الكلام الصادر عن عمرو خالد واضح لكل مسلم
، فقد قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : " إِنَّ بِ ُ كلِّ تسبِيحةٍ
صدقَة " . رواه مسلم .
وسبحان الله والحمد لله رب العالمين


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