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Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Monday, March 13, 2006

Fatwa on female internet freedom

I heard about it, and now Silly Bahraini girl has it and the names of the saudi clerics (surprise surprise) who issued it. The Saudi government, on the other hand, is not satisfied with daily blocking of nearly 200 Web sites. Religious scholars and businessmen affiliated to the Saudi government are starting to launch campaigns against the freedom to use the Internet and the freedom of information exchange. Religious scholars have issued a fatwa prohibiting women from using the Internet without the presence of a mahram (a close relative they are prohibited to marry). This was followed by a call from Saudi businessmen to sue Web sites that call for freedom of thought and secularism, such as the aforementioned Web sites. The Fatwa was issued by 2 saudi sheikhs called Othman Al Khamees and Saad Al Ghamdy, and it states the following: " It's Haram to let women use the internet because of their inside wickedness, and a woamn shouldn't be allowed on the internet without the presence of a Moharam (close male relative) who is an expert in the deceptive and sexually corrupt nature of the women!". I am not making this shit up, people. That's what it said. I don't know, I am pretty familiar with the Koran and the hadith, and not once did I read anything on the internet being forbidden. Those clerics are talking out of their asses so to speak, and their disdain for females is very apparent. The sad thing is, I can see muslim men, especially saudi muslim men, being receptive and accepting to this Fatwa, if not on the grounds of protecting the morals and sensibilities of women from the "western zionist propaganda" available on the net. You know, like equality, self-determination and personal freedom. Whatever...

28 Comments:

At 3/13/2006 06:48:00 AM, Blogger EducSubNorm said...

All this cr*p is about nothing more than the repressed sexuality of the men in Saudi and the way they use their tawdry, mass-produced, ready-to-wear religion as a cover. You'd think, to hear those wanka-mullas talk, that they'd invented morality !! Morality was alive and well and has been mediating the affairs of men and women, friends, neighbours and adversaries, for millenia before them.

Which do you think is the most dangerous, a Saudi man or a Saudi woman ??? It would be a whole lot better for the civilized world AND Saudi Arabia, if the men were kept in thrall, in fear of some suitable half-baked philosophy, and the women told them when they could go out, what they could do (and also gave them a Kleenex or two so they didn't have to gob in the gutter). It shouldn't be too difficult to invent the credo - after all, we're talking here about guys with an IQ that couldn't out-think a fruit-fly.

 
At 3/13/2006 06:58:00 AM, Blogger Steven said...

Bad news this time. Well when it is Saudi's turn in this war, things will change. Saudi's turn will come.

 
At 3/13/2006 07:00:00 AM, Blogger Steven said...

Sandmonkey, your site feed isnt working:
http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/atom.xml

 
At 3/13/2006 07:07:00 AM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Apparently there REALLY is advice on the Internet in the Qur'an, at least according to "Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid, a known Islamic lecturer and author."

I've given a few of his answers in my comment to Silly, but the site is worth checking out:
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng

"WAHABBIT SEASON"

 
At 3/13/2006 07:09:00 AM, Anonymous lolo said...

This is one of the funniest things I've ever read. It would be even funnier if it weren't true.

 
At 3/13/2006 07:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know, I am pretty familiar with the Koran and the hadith, and not once did I read anything on the internet being forbidden.

Hey, I thought allah was all knowing...



jonas

 
At 3/13/2006 08:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first ever webpage,now preserved at:
http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
lists people but no "Muhammed" (or other optional spelling).

So I looked for advice at:
http://www.god.com/
http://www.allah.com/

You see - he/she/it does exist and is not the same peson - but nothing on cybergodding !

We noble English are not well represented - godless as you might expect.
http://www.allah.co.uk
Unregistered and available from £9.95 plus VAT
http://www.god.co.uk
Redirects you to a site called Wippit - not that starved greyhound looking animal but a music download site " Your Number One download source for the New Testament in MP3"

 
At 3/13/2006 08:49:00 AM, Blogger KNL said...

Dude, that's retarded. Fuck Saudi clerics. I'm issuing a fatwa and women can use the internet when ever the effin please.

 
At 3/13/2006 08:54:00 AM, Blogger Steven said...

Off Topic:
http://www.google.com/mars/

Wow! All geeks should love this! :)

 
At 3/13/2006 08:58:00 AM, Blogger Leilouta said...

I have a question to the Saudi clerics,

Can I search Arabic sites in Arabic in the presence of "mahram" even if he doesn't speak Arabic? Or English if he doesn't speak English?"
and what would be something that is haram for him, but not for me to look at,female hygiene stuff?

It is just unbelievable that this is going on in the year 2006.

 
At 3/13/2006 09:11:00 AM, Blogger KNL said...

http://wahdah.blogspot.com/2006/03/cheikh-nourediene-bin-khalid-esh.html

My fatwa. heh.

 
At 3/13/2006 09:17:00 AM, Blogger EducSubNorm said...

Leilouta said...
"what would be something that is haram for him, but not for me to look at,female hygiene stuff?"

Something I don't understand here.

When I go shopping in the supermarket (my wife being usually at work) I buy all the "female hygiene stuff" along with the food and what have you.

Does this mean that if I were a Muslim guy I would have to keep my eyes shut during this phase of the transaction - and then, how could I be sure that I was getting the right thing. AND - who buys the condoms ?

 
At 3/13/2006 09:23:00 AM, Anonymous Rea said...

i'm looking at this and i wonder... is my english so bad?? are they actually saying women are wicked and sexually corrupt? why would they say that????? please someone tell me cause i don't get it. these women, they do everything possible to stay modest, and hidden, and basically do everything that is asked of them... if i had to live their lives i'm pretty sure i'd rather kill myself. and yet they are called names, they are insulted, they are given even MORE bans in their life??? what more can they do?? how much lower can they be pushed?? should they crawl and not walk? is them being on two feet insulting the god???

the world must be spinning backwards... i see no other reason for this regression people are making lately.

 
At 3/13/2006 09:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Moharam (close male relative) who is an expert in the deceptive and sexually corrupt nature of the women"

aka

men with a naughty imagination.

According to my (faithful!!) husband, they should be easy to find ;-)

My deepest sympathy for saudi and bahraini women.

Will women obey this?

Scandinavian person

 
At 3/13/2006 09:34:00 AM, Blogger Leilouta said...

EducSubNorm,
The Infidel maid or driver probably is sent out for that stuff:)

 
At 3/13/2006 10:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...without the presence of a mahram (a close relative they are prohibited to marry)"

You know...I have to wonder: is there ever a problem with these 'mahram' guys hanging out with these women?

 
At 3/13/2006 10:58:00 AM, Blogger Pazuzu said...

" It's Haram to let women use the internet because of their inside wickedness, and a woamn shouldn't be allowed on the internet without the presence of a Moharam (close male relative) who is an expert in the deceptive and sexually corrupt nature of the women!"


Oh plz say he isn't founding his words on any real religious writing!

 
At 3/13/2006 11:41:00 AM, Anonymous Anne Kirstine said...

It has all to do with the concept of "original sin"... something that medieval christians also excelled in.
You know Eve was tempted by the snake and tempted Adam to take a bite and the fool wouldn't stand up for himself, but blamed it all on Eve - that's the "original sin" and the "deceptive and sexually corrupt nature of the women!"

I think God really has a problem with us getting her words all mixed up...

 
At 3/13/2006 12:57:00 PM, Blogger Crazy Girl said...

I guess this has something to do with women being sexual beings and they are weaker than men. I guess they are afraid women might you know get ideas.

How can people be so bored to think of thinsg like this? So does this mean that women can no longer get internet service?

Maybe the next fatwa will be that women must wear the higab in front of the computer incase there might be a web cam or somethin..

 
At 3/13/2006 01:11:00 PM, Blogger Steven said...

Off topic again, this is such a good article I have to share it:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=530

LMFAO

 
At 3/13/2006 02:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anne Kirstine said...

"I guess this has something to do with women being sexual beings and they are weaker than men. I guess they are afraid women might you know get ideas."
Women aren't weaker than men *lol*
Men are sexual beings, too *lol*
And men get ideas, too *lol*

All biological research shows that women are stronger than men - they have fewer diseases and accidents and live longer. Men have a higher mortality rate at every age than women.

No, this has all to do with power - who has power over whom - right back from when the patriarchate replaced the matriarchate in prehistoric times - not that I am that old *rofl*
but it is close *rofl*

 
At 3/13/2006 04:54:00 PM, Blogger Steven said...

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/03/war_between_the.html

This is another example of why the war is heading the way it is. Muslem clerics are declaring a religious war. The west, however, can not declare a war against Islam because our countries are built on the foundations of religious tolerence.

It is down to Muslems to reject this war and support the west in eleminating radical Islam.

 
At 3/13/2006 05:48:00 PM, Blogger falcon2000eg said...

a7aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal

 
At 3/13/2006 07:10:00 PM, Blogger Christine said...

Oh man, this is getting totally ridiculous.

I think it's about time to burn the house down. Give the ladies some torches please.

 
At 3/13/2006 09:19:00 PM, Anonymous Aya said...

This is not new to Saudi clerics. The Wahabi institution has issued many fatwas a regarding women and the internet. You know, if a woman and a computer connected to the internet sit alone together, then eventually Satan will be present, and you all know what happens when Satan is hanging around!

 
At 3/14/2006 12:57:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really want to know, if women will listen (aknowledge the authority of the clerics), agree (about the sexually corrupt bla-bla) and obey?

Scandinavian person

 
At 3/14/2006 11:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saudi men are scared of women.

SK

 
At 9/29/2006 08:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets make a tee-shirt
FUCK the FATWA

 

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