Oooops
A Newsweek story published last week that stated that interrogators at the US military detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, desecrated copies of the Koran by leaving them in toilet cubicles and even stuffing one down a lavatory to rattle Muslim prisoners caused 4 days of unrest in Afghanistan which led to 10 people dead and some 80 people injured. Now, Newsweek is saying that it might have gotten the story wrong! Ok, let's all say it together : OOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSS! In this apology, Newsweek's editor Mark Whitaker says he will continue investigating the story and that Newsweek "regret(s) that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst." I am sure the families of the 10 people who died appreciate your sympathies you goddamn nitwit! Word of advice Mark: Don't continue to investigate this story. Just leave it alone. I think you and your people have done enough damage.
posted by The Sandmonkey @ 5/16/2005 05:49:00 AM
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But did they really get part of the story wrong? or are they doing like AlAhram is doing with Hosni's interview!
That's a question for the ages my friend. But a better question would be: If they really did get the story wrong, would the muslims of the world believe them?
SaMo..
I thought the same when I read about the "maybe wrong" thing.
What?
If they didn't apologize out of diplomacy and avoiding huge problems, that would be really a serious thing.
People cannot just publish inflammatory things like desecrating Qur'an and then retract it. They should know a little bit more about the Islamic world.
whether the koran was desecrated or not does not give people the right to riot and kill each other.You didn't see christians rioting when palistinian gunmen in the Church of the Nativity used pages of the Bible as toilet paper. What a bunch of barbarians . How many of these ignoramuses could actually read a Newsweek.
mohamed:
No, I doubt it's like the Al Ahram "retraction." If the government pushed a newspaper or magazine to retract an embarrassing or incriminating story, that would actually be a bigger story here in the US than whatever the original story was.
After Newsweek admitted their doubts about the story, the Whitehouse spokesman openly wondered why they didn't fully retract the article. Some of us think that small comment alone inappropriately infringed on freedom of the press. So, I seriously doubt that Newsweek's original admission of a mistake was due to government pressure. It looks like they did a massive internal investigation after they heard that there were protests and deaths as consequences of the article.
Just another example of the media not giving a damn whether the story is true or not. This time, consequences where immediate. I do agree with the previous poster, that it was no excuse to riot and kill people. If Christians or non-Muslims rioted and killed every damn time Muslims desecrated something sacred to them, it would be a constant state of affairs. The ignorance continues to amaze.
Anonymous Said
"You didn't see christians rioting when palistinian gunmen in the Church of the Nativity used pages of the Bible as toilet paper. What a bunch of barbarians . How many of these ignoramuses could actually read a Newsweek."
What a bunch of crap you post. This incident you refer to never ever happened. Nobody touched a bible in this church.....I followed this story very close and I have witness from the nativity church on the contrary Anonymous the muslims and Christians in Palestine doesn't have this problem.
It was the Israelis who bombed the nativity church and the whole world was watching including Mr. Christian Bush. The Muslims and the Christians in the nativity church had one fear the aggressor Israel that is!
Next time you decide to post something you better check the incidents before you post this supitdity.
T.
*Stupidity
enjoy the honesty and frankness of your blog.
Actually you would have to be stupid not to see that muslims have been desecrating our churches, our temples, our synagogues, and our cemeteries. Muslims are responsible for desecrating their own mosques. You would have to be blind not to see that muslims have burned down churches in Pakistan , In Indonesia,just to name a few.Have desecrated Jewish cemeteries in Europe and Canada. Have blown up the buddhas in Afghanistan. People of all faiths see it day in a day out, and we are all waiting for our apology.So who are you trying to fool with that religion of peace bullshit.
A Tale Of Two Cultures
~ False rumors of a Koran being flushed down a toilet, riots and death among Moslems.
~ Palestinian gunmen take over a
Christian Church in Jerusalem. Among the many noxious things they did is rip pages out of a Bible to use as toilet paper. There is no riots among Christians for the desecration of the Bible and Church..
Life is much more sacred than any book or building, no matter how holy they are deemed to be.
Contrary to Mr. Twosret's ravings, we have this blurb via Little Green Footballs.com on the
damage and desecration caused by the Palestinians....
On April 24, the Jerusalem Post reported on the damage that the PA forces were causing:
Three Armenian monks, who had been held hostage by the Palestinian gunmen inside Bethlehem’s Church of the Nativity, managed to flee the church area via a side gate yesterday morning. They immediately thanked the soldiers for rescuing them.
They told army officers the gunmen had stolen gold and other property, including crucifixes and prayer books, and had caused damage....
One of the monks, Narkiss Korasian, later told reporters: “They stole everything, they opened the doors one by one and stole everything....They stole our prayer books and four crosses...they didn’t leave anything. Thank you for your help, we will never forget it.”
Israeli officials said the monks said the gunmen had also begun beating and attacking clergymen.41
When the siege finally ended, the PA soldiers left the church in terrible condition:
The Palestinian gunmen holed up in the Church of the Nativity seized church stockpiles of food and “ate like greedy monsters” until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry. They also guzzled beer, wine, and Johnnie Walker scotch that they found in priests’ quarters, undeterred by the Islamic ban on drinking alcohol. The indulgence lasted for about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests who were trapped inside for the entire ordeal....
The Orthodox priests and a number of civilians have said the gunmen created a regime of fear.
Even in the Roman Catholic areas of the complex there was evidence of disregard for religious norms. Catholic priests said that some Bibles were torn up for toilet paper, and many valuable sacramental objects were removed. “Palestinians took candelabra, icons and anything that looked like gold,” said a Franciscan, the Rev. Nicholas Marquez from Mexico.
Little Green Footballs is my all-time favorite blog along with Jihadwatch and dhimmiwatch. A must read every day.
Amazing Mr. Ghost,
The little football green knows better than a Priest who was on the scene. Great report Mr. Ghost let us just flush it like newsweek.
You actually sound like Fox news.
Twosret
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Anonymous,
Generalization and Racism are the symptoms of stupidity and ignorance.
If we follow your logic then crusaders and Zionists (Christian and Jews) fall under the same umbrella.
Peace does exist only for those who want it. The people with hate like you don’t want to give it a chance they are and blind in their heart and can't dream about it and see it happen.
What apology are you talking about? Abu Ghraib Apology? or African American slavery Apology? or Sabra and Shatila? or what? Apology doesn't take us anywhere. If Apology will take away the invasion of the Brits or the french to my dear country Egypt I will request one.
The damage is done no apology for me.
Newsweek is a very supportive to the Democratic Party. It would NOT bow to political pressure. In fact, I read where when the source went wobbly on them they were furious and are frantically trying to find ANYTHING to substantiate the story. They lost about 5 million last year and if they can't substantiate it, they will take a financial hit( One of their radio broadcasts has already been cancelled),
There is NOTHING that would stop them from printing something except for journalistic ethics. In the states, in extreme circumstances, they will extend courtesy to the government by delaying a story but never killing it.
thinker
Sam , we wrote on the same subject ..telepathy or what? I like your take on it.
Sadly, the dammage is done.
People are dead, and even the 'retraction' will have little effect while there are so many eager to use it to stir up more hatred.
"anonymous" people decrying that people would 'riot' over such a thing must remember 2 things.
A) Some of those 'rioting' are the same exact people that are armed with RPG's before the 'scandal'
B) Arab culture is currently saturated with 'conspiracy theory'... its a side-affect of being ruled by tyrants and dictators who use dis-information to control the people
C) Christianianty, once upon a time, would have rioted over such things. Thankfully, it has largly outgrown the more extreme elements. Islam can and will get there, but its evolution has been slown by such dictators and terrorists who cloud what Islam is, and take advantage of the illiterate and poor.
Yeah, this being hastily shoved out there wasn't an accident. The soldiers who die are "red-state white-trash," and the Muslims who die are "collateral damage" in the eyes of the media elites, who live by the code of "end justifies means", y'see.
Finally some Americans get the taste of how it is like for us Arabs to be misrepresented by the Media.
I bet 100 internet dollars (the kind I won't pay you) that this will end up involving Seymor Hersh.
-Mike
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Here is how I can describe you best Rohan
"The kangaroo (Rohan Clement) is an animal that is considered a pest in spite of it's endangered species status. The main reason that kangaroos are considered pests is that in addition to eating the grass, the kangaroo also eats the roots. Thus, a large herd of kangaroos can destroy a field in a very short time."
Go get help kangaroo Rohan!
Rohan, buddy, that was not nice! Actually that really crossed the fuckin line and forced me to do something i really hate doing which is remove your racist hatefull comment.
Please don't do that again, cause then i may have to get angry and set you straight myself and you really don't want me to do that now, do you?
That's what i thought! Let's try to be as civilized here as you claim to be. Ok?
The comments by tina and J. Francis Lehman reinforce something I have thought for a while: There are segments of our society (at all points in the political spectrum) who are just as taken by conspiracy theories and paranoia as Arabs say their societies are.
I wonder if there is some common sociological cause in all of these cases.
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