Instapunditing
Lots of work, so quick links and tidbits of information today: Yahoo's most e-mailed story is "Is George Bush the worst President ever?", noting that he may be actually worst than James Buchanan. Since Buchanan helped start the civil war, I would say that this story may be just a bit biased. But then history has a weird way of judging figures: for example Napoleon, who was a Butcher, is not known for nothing but a conquerer and the name of a chessplay and a psychological complex. Bush won 2 wars, took out the Taliban and Afganistan, got his party to control all 3 branches of government, helped democratise 3 middle-eastern countries (not counting ours), was the first president to call for a two-state soloution and to get Israel to withdraw completley from Gaza. I am not sure many other details will be mentioned in History Books, the same way the only thing people rememebr George H Bush for is the first gulf war and Clinton for Monica Lweinsky and the impeachment. You know? Mass graves found in Lebanon, near a Former Syrian Military base notorious for the arrest and torture of prisoners. Must be the Mossad planting them part of the great conspiracy to make Syria look guilty. Damn zionists! On the other hand, Jumbalat keeps raising the tensions and accusations against Syria, playing the Cheney to Saad Harriri's Bush. If only he could do the scowl; it may distract from him looking like Jimmy Chong's more stoned out brother. On the national front, Ayman Nour is so prepared to go to jail he goes to court with his prison bundle with him. We are gonna miss you Ayman, you made things fun. Don't drop the soap dude. Human Rights Watch is critisizing the US state department for "failing egyptian voters". I still don't know orcan't figure out what we, as egyptians, want the US to do about all of this. Al Qaeda's guide to kidnapping. Fun read, fun people. The French are saying that it's 20 times safer to drive high than drunk. For aroma and smell purposes, use grandma's brownies recipe. Bonus reason: It's chocolicious. The canadians acquitted a man of rape on the account of "Sexomnia". He was apparently asleep when put a condom on, grabbed a woman, took her cloths off, and raped her. Yeah, that makes sense. Tyra Banks quit modeling, Al Sharpton wants to be a sitcom star, Brad Pitt wants to be Angelina's babies Daddy and Marilyn Manson just got married. Any of you care? Didn't think so. Why do they label this crap news then? Oh and if you are attending a US college, you need to check out Nadz' guide to surviving your crazy hippie college professor. It's a must read.
posted by The Sandmonkey @ 12/04/2005 04:11:00 AM
9 Comments:
won two wars? dude... forget karl rove, bush needs to enlist you as his spin doctor\balls carrier. why don't we hail dubya as the messiah then... forget jesus... we have someone called george W Bush. while blaming america and israel for everything that goes wrong in this world is asinine, i think that something is to be said for constructive criticism. didn't clinton play a role in the oslo accords and the camp david talks which fundamentally recognized the two state solution as the only viable option for the resolution of the israeli-palestinian conflict. its not the weed i'm smoking is it. fighting idiocy with even more idiocy. that's the way of this damn world i guess. as we speak... dubya is curing the world of aids and heck why not add ...all eeeevil... sheesh. i am not convinced that it was puppet master bush engineering the gaza withdrawal... gotta give sharon and the israelis more credit than that. boorish right wing/neocon zealots are as annoying as mindless 'liberal' lefties.i just realized that i have been compelled by the sheer ludicrousness of your hero worship to provide non-constructive criticism of your post.i do apologize. idiocy is a vicious cycle indeed.
dude, u r not getting my point, are you? The way history works, it diminshes and condences a person's achievments in a way that makes it somewhat unfair (in a good or a bad way)to the person itself. I brought up Napoleon for that reason. If you read his history, the dude was a merciless butcher. Does anyone mention that? What about Alexander the great, unifying the world through killing other armies. What do we learn about him? Ehh, he is from macedonia, he almost conquerd the whole world, he liked naming places after him and he died in his 30's. So much other bad shit he did gets ommitted from the context, leaving only the headlines afterwards. That's my point in regards to dubya. All those bad things that he gets (fairly or unfairly ) critisized for, well, most of them will get ommitted in exchange of the headlines. And unless he gets impeached, which is kinda unlikely, this is probably what will be rememebrd of him. 9/11. The Bush doctrine. The war on afghanistan and the democracy there, the war on Iraq and the dmeocracy there, the pressure on Syria. The wins in congress and the senate. You think anyone will mention the increased spending? Or the deficit? or the ban gay marriages ammendemnt? or any of those other things?
I mean, look at Reagn. So much stuff happend in his presidency, with the S&L scandal, the october surprise, Iran contra, the Star wars program and its massive spending. All that stuff. Yet when he died all you heard was what? The man who brought down the Soviet Union. One of the USA's greatest presidents. Dissent and criticisms and contreversey gets forgotten in historical context. All that matters is the headline achievment. That was Clinton;s problem. He didn't do nothing really. He had a good economy going and he didn't mess it up. But what made the headlines? The bombing of Kosovo and Monica Lewinsky. That's what Clinton will probably be rememebrd for. This is why presidents like him always need to do post-presidential stuff to beef up their legacy. Like Jimmy Carter and all of his peace-promotion work. He had camp david under his belt and that's what he went for. God knows he needed that after failing so badly as a president to fix anything in the country and dropping the ball on Iran. You get it, or do I need to elaborate some more?
Thanks for calling me an idiotic zealot though. You are the first to do so. I feel honored!
the point the dude was trying to make is that the things you noted about bush's presidency are largely incorrect. they are incorrect because of the subjective language you chose to use. while one could say "bush won two wars" one could also, with more accuracy, say "he conducted two wholly unjustified and costly invasions". you get za bicshar? if you were looking for objective, you could have said "bush conducted two military campaigns that fulfilled their objective, namely to instill fear into perceived terror threats".
you just made me do homework!
btw, that sexomnia thing...actually most western countries have established jurisprudence on automatism. you have to put on like 3000 experts to mount that defence though. i remember one guy who got dressed, drove to his in laws house, and murdered them, all in his sleep. it habben.
i'm guessing that was a judge alone trial tho. juries tend not to believe shit like that.
Yes, forsoothsayer, I can see how much more "objective" your langauge is :D
Sandmonkey said Bush won two wars. He did. He toppled and replaced two governments. If that's not winning a war, what the hell is?
Your the one who added color commentary. Sandmonkey simply stated the facts.
Sandmonkey, Reagan was a giant in the US, even during his Presidency. He changed the US (and the world) *so* much, and so fast. I was a kid in the 70s, but I remember how bad things were when Reagan took office. And how good they were when he left office. It wasn't just the Cold War.
Of course, the whole world hated him... more than they hate Bush, in my opinion. And he had his enemies domestically too. But there's no way you'll ever convince me that Reagan wasn't recognized as one of the greatest President's the US ever had, while he was in office.
And I say all that, even though I blame Reagan's stumble in Beirut in 1983 for the current problems with terrorism.
You are so right, SM. History will forget the press and all of the hysterical lefties words about GWB and he will be remembered for exactly what you have said. It has happened everytime and the left never learns that their lies and dependance upon HighSchool style peer pressure to feel a certain way never works.
One mistake I see here is Clinton's economy. He did kill it in 1999 with the NASDAQ crash.
Beirut has to be remembered through the lense of history. America was still gripped by what the left inflicted upon us through Vietnamization, you know the same thing they are trying to do today. It won't work this time though, we are an older and wiser nation.
normally i refrain from just shooting invective without argument, but programmer craig, you're just a fucking idiot.
Yes, I can see how you like to have reasonable discussions. You're going to be a great lawyer, forsoothsayer. That's just the right to tone to take when you're trying to sway a jury. Keep up the good work :)
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