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Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Poor Ronald

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41 Comments:

At 2/15/2006 03:53:00 AM, Blogger doxRaven said...

"would you like fries with that?"

Thomas L. Friedman observed in is 1999 book "Lexus and the Olive tree":

no two countries that both had a McDonald's had fought a war against each other, since each got its McDonald's.

hmm, is Ronald loosing his magic?

 
At 2/15/2006 05:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Friedman's latest book, I think he alters this statement. He now says something like "no two nations that utilize a complex, interoconnected global supply chain" will fight wars. He offers Dell and how they use Chinese factories in an integrated way.

 
At 2/15/2006 05:55:00 AM, Anonymous jokerman said...

What are you 2 talking about??
It has nothing to do wtih Friedman but with some crazy lunatic deranged pakistanis! whats mcdonalds got to do with the cartoons??? doesnt that prove how idiotic & barbaric they are?

 
At 2/15/2006 06:06:00 AM, Blogger RC Aircraft Fun said...

If they are going to burn someone, I vote for that Burger King guy with the big head. He is scary looking!

 
At 2/15/2006 06:14:00 AM, Blogger doxRaven said...

jokerman,

let me spell it out

see Ronald in the background? Well it’s kind of symbolic. What does Ronald represent? - McDonalds. What does McDonalds represent? - globalization and Western values. Friedman wrote a whole book on the topic.

Islam also has aspirations of globalizations but this one has a slightly different value set to the one Friedman had in mind.

My apologies for being too subtle for you.

 
At 2/15/2006 06:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's just cut to the chase and blame it on the jews... I got a hangnail yesterday. I'm positive they were involved somehow.

 
At 2/15/2006 06:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boycott the Middle east! No vacations and no western businesses in the ME!

 
At 2/15/2006 07:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guy in front with mouth open "Our business is done here. I'm going to Disneyland!"

 
At 2/15/2006 07:50:00 AM, Anonymous JohnL said...

To take liberties with an old saying.... It is better to light a single clown than to curse the Danish.

 
At 2/15/2006 09:41:00 AM, Anonymous Blowre said...

Maybe people there are unhappy about what American and British soliders are doing in Iraq of
torturing unarmed underage kids and prisoners?
No wonder, USA Army is accepting now citizen with previous criminal records! It is good way America to get rid of criminals out there and just get Middle East degraded more and more while some people like this Monkey spend most of his time defending your political trend more than what Bush does!

 
At 2/15/2006 09:42:00 AM, Blogger Suzanne said...

Sorry guys, I just didn't like the food :(

 
At 2/15/2006 10:16:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't these idiotic Pakistanis realize that McDonalds, is a FRANCHISE??? It is very most likely OWNED by a local?? (And McD's isn't Danish!) Next, (in a related story) they burned a bus station, owned by South Koreans! OK, help me with the math. They burn a bus station. HOW THE FUCK ARE THEY (the pakistanis) SUPPOSED TO GET AROUND TOWN??? WHO is hurt the worst? Now we have a Gay movie, "In the Name of Allah" about to be released. Won't this be fun?

 
At 2/15/2006 10:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is a link to the story about the gay Muslim film:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117938165?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2562

At least it isn't a US film!!

 
At 2/15/2006 10:47:00 AM, Anonymous ccn said...

the pakistanis really need more after school activities, so they can "burn out" all that energy on something else than old Ron

 
At 2/15/2006 11:01:00 AM, Anonymous Jokerman said...

Doxraven
Do you have any other credible sources other than Thomas friedman?
The guy is very good but when it comes to ME mentality, he doesnt get it right.
Now I dont know what you mean by Islam has global aspirations, i dont know where you got this rubbish from & if friedman did say it then im afraid he is wrong too.
What you might mean is some Muslims have a global aspiration but then show me in stats what they did for it other than a few stupid speeches & books written by radicals. Islam has no plan to out it simple & subtle to you.
& that Ronald statue im sorry doesnt mean globalisation to me, freidman uses a more advanced techincal word for primitive simplistic pakistanis who just want to burn anything thats foreign & they would have burned mcdonalds on orders from a cleric who hates america. They woulsdnt have burned it because it stands for Globalisation, they dont understand globalisation to begin with.

 
At 2/15/2006 11:07:00 AM, Anonymous jokerman said...

Anon 10.16
You are spot on mate! They also burned a Bank! why ?? It is simply a rampage by misguided dimwits.

 
At 2/15/2006 11:29:00 AM, Anonymous Philipp Krieg said...

Hey Ronald, stop feeding them with Big Mac's!

Bad people, bad...

 
At 2/15/2006 12:37:00 PM, Blogger doxRaven said...

jokerman,

primitive simplistic pakistanis who just want to burn anything thats foreign & they would have burned mcdonalds on orders from a cleric who hates america.

if you look at the picture above and that is all you see then you have blinkers on.

 
At 2/15/2006 01:13:00 PM, Blogger Ceru-men said...

Poor Ronald - but tragically an 8 year old boy died during this mayhem. All together 3 have died.

So after the new Abu Ghraib pictures no way this is cooling down. Or...?
If Denmark still is the bad guy next week, there is something other than prophet bashing behind the trouble.

 
At 2/15/2006 01:17:00 PM, Anonymous jokerman said...

doxraven
believe me, sometimes it can be as simple as that. The masses dont know better, majority of the clerics ordering them dont know much either & dont care for globalisation, it all needs a smart guy to tell them mcdonalds is a spying centre or they stuff their macs & fries with cancerous material & they will buy it.

 
At 2/15/2006 01:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is incredibly stupid to burn independant buisnesses. There is some poor Pakistani who worked very hard to earn enough to buy a franchise just to see those who probably could never afford to eat there take it all away from him. Too stupid to understand that this doesn't hurt the west only their neighborhood making it harder to want to invest in their part of the world.

 
At 2/15/2006 02:13:00 PM, Blogger Moron99 said...

So after the new Abu Ghraib pictures no way this is cooling down. Or...?
If Denmark still is the bad guy next week, there is something other than prophet bashing behind the trouble.


you just now figuring that out?

It starts with "P" that is true.
but it ends with "olitcal power"
Which is nothing new.

 
At 2/15/2006 02:44:00 PM, Blogger patsgirl said...

Yes these people properbly could never afford to eat a McD.

This has nothing to do with prophet bashing. These people are just sick and tires of being poor and their dictatorial regimes are happy to see the people blaming the West instead of them.

The riots in Iran were properbly created by the government who think that they can in this way put pressure on Denmark (Denmark being a member of the UN security counsel and the Iran nuclear program being an issue there).

The riots in Syria and Lebanon seem to have been created by Syria who have not been very popular in the rest of the ME because their government isn´t as religious as in some of the other countries in ME. They hope that the ME will now see them as good Muslims protecting the prophet.

So in every country there seems to be local agendas. Denmark is a small country and it seems reasonable cheap to try to bully such a small nation. I don´t think we would have had these riots if the cartoons had first appeared in the newspaper in a big country.

 
At 2/15/2006 02:53:00 PM, Blogger Soldier's Dad said...

It is all just a show.

"See how much rediculous violence I can cause without even trying?".

"I can get the mob to burn a Plastic Ronald McDonald".

"I can get the mob to burn an embassy".

"Imagine how much trouble the West would have if it did something serious, like Bomb Tehran, Invade Syria or cut off aid to Hamas?"

 
At 2/15/2006 03:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another immunisation shot (sigh). All scenes like these do is 'prove' that all muslims are mad, violent and want westerners dead. Why immunisation ? because if Iran goes too far with its nuke program and the Great Satan unleashes the forces of Hell on them then a lot of people will nod their head and look wise when they say "had to be done".

 
At 2/15/2006 03:38:00 PM, Blogger Cindy said...

I would have loved to see their faces when 20 of these freaks woke up the next day only to realize they no longer had JOBS at Mc donalds!! HAHAHA

 
At 2/15/2006 04:13:00 PM, Blogger Crazy Girl said...

It's the whole lets cut off our nose to spite our face.. They are just ruining it for themselevs..Who are they hurting when the burn down a MCD.. We as Americans loose no money.. They are the ones that loose. Espically once the franchise is paid off..They are just taking money away from themselves..
I hope the owner had insurance..But than again is riots and morons that blow things up covered under the insurance policy.. I would love to see who underwites forgien insurance contracts..
I say just completly cut off the middle east..Cut off every penny that goes there.. Watch them come crawling like babies..

 
At 2/15/2006 04:24:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does it seem like this sort of thing is happening everyday? Why do they always hit the fire with sticks? Don't they realize that it makes them look like apes smacking a toy around at the zoo?

At least nobody is wearing a Yankees hat in this picture.

-Mike

 
At 2/15/2006 06:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This link suggests that Denmark was attacked on purpose because it is cracking down on immigrants. It's worth reading.

http://www.dailypundit.com/2006/02/denmark_under_attack_the_root.php

 
At 2/15/2006 08:36:00 PM, Blogger okiedokie said...

I have read your blog for the past few days. I am an American. I made some comments on my blog. I did so because I was very angry. I arrived at your site via IMAO. After viewing your site and realizing where you were from I deleted some of my more angry posts. Not because of any self imposed restrictions but because I now know I can not lump all Arabs in the same group. I should have known this. My country was founded on the precepts of inclusiveness and I almost let my anger get the best of me. Do not worry. No one visits my website. I just needed to clear my conscience. I still feel that those of the radical Islam faith are fundamantilly flawed. I still feel wrath and anger towards them. I should not have included my anger towards all Arabs. I do not apologise for my words excepting this. I am writing this because I enjoy your website and would like to comment occasionily. My website is rightagainhuh.blogspot.com.

 
At 2/15/2006 11:47:00 PM, Anonymous Cosmic Duck said...

Maybe they want more wholesome food. They might have seen the film Supersize me, in which an American almost eats himself to death by eating McDonalds for 30 days running.

 
At 2/16/2006 12:32:00 AM, Blogger doxRaven said...

Jokerman,
Now I dont know what you mean by Islam has global aspirations, i dont know where you got this rubbish from

You have you head in the sand jokerman (to put it kindly). Check this out:

"We believe in Islam, we believe in the rule of the Caliphate and we do not support a separation between state and religion," Sarsur said.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010237.php

 
At 2/16/2006 01:27:00 AM, Blogger Ceru-men said...

moron99

you just now figuring that out?

It starts with "P" that is true.
but it ends with "olitcal power"
Which is nothing new.


Ok, agree it sounded quite naive. I know that there is P for Politics behind. Local "war-lords" see this as an oportunity to get back for a lot of other things.

Now they are burning KFC as well. Probably because they think US is behind the birdflu :-)

 
At 2/16/2006 01:41:00 AM, Anonymous jokerman said...

doxraven
I will try to put it to you as simply as possible.
There is nothing in ISLAM that states anything like that.
There is nothing in the Quran that says Sarsur is always right, nothing that says or comes close to the unity between the state & religion, & by the way, that notion of state & mosque is easily refuted, Even Mohamed didnt advocate it.
So clever dicky, an idiot says something & you claim Islam says so too, how very interesting you are, has it occured to you that those are fanatics who use religion & how ignorant people are to recruit more? hasnt it occured to you that the same can be said regarding any religion. There is a vast diference between what ISLAM actually says & what Muslims say!
now do you get it, do you make the distinction? who the f*** is sarsur? who cares about him? sarsur as far as i know isnt Islam so get your facts right & dont call others with names when it suits you best.

 
At 2/16/2006 01:58:00 AM, Anonymous jokerman said...

again
that hafwit says " We believe in Islam, we believe in the rule of the Caliphate and we do not support a separation between state and religion"
thats a load of tosh to begin with.
Historically speaking, it doesnt stand at all. The 4 caliphates who succeeded Mohamed didnt call or act as state & religion were one.
1- Abu Bakr, fought battles with those who didnt accept his caliphate , made a mistake to fight others who refused to pay the alms as they did in the days of Mohamed. He also orderd the compilation of the Quran which Mohamed hadnt mentioned.
2- Omar, Cancelled a direct law in the Quran, citing its obsoletness. Strived in other laws & accomodated it with its present circumstances.
3- Osman, appointed his relatives & loved ones in EVERY position available, he exiled a well known companion, abu zerr, from the Madina, beat up another one till his ribs were broken, Ordered conflicting Qurans, there were several due to the dialect, to be burnt & left the Quraishy dialect which lives till today. Osman was confined to his house during a revolution that overtook the Madina by storm, was assassinated in his own home.
4- Ali changes the capital from Madina to Kufa, he battles 2 of the companions + Mohamed's wife in the first civil war, he then goes on to battle the Levantine forces led by Muaweyah & Amr who manage to escape the routing by a devious plan that divides Ali's army. A faction rebels against Ali & many battles between them both take palce, mainly the Nahrawan where the Kharijites are massacred but there are plenty more to wage battles later on. 3 Kharijites agree on assassinating Ali, Muwayah & Amr in Kufa, damascuss & cairo respectively. Only Ali is killed while the other attempts are foiled.
where is he religion in this brief history mr doxraven? why dont you ask your mentor mr sarsur the roach to fill you in?
Instead of surfign websites, i suggest you go read some books first, to educate yourself on thematter, not anyone who says BS is correct unless you want to belive it.

 
At 2/16/2006 02:37:00 AM, Blogger doxRaven said...

jokerman,

who the f*** is sarsur?
it's in the link I provided.

Ibrahim Sarsur, head of the United Arab List, which is running for Knesset jointly with Ahmed Tibi's Ta'al party, said today in a press conference that his party believes in Islamic rule over Israel, in the form of a renewed Caliphate. IsraelNN.com

now, you can rant and rave all you want about this verse or that verse, or what happened 1400 odd years ago.

Islam is about as much about how it is practiced as it is about how it is written.

Al Qaeda today launched "Voice of the Calpihate" (Sout al-Khilafa), a weekly video magazine that promotes the group's aims to establish a global caliphate. Sep 23 05

you might not like the brand of Islam that they are promoting but they read the same Quran, and what they preach has support with the masses from Marocco to UK to the Sudan to Pakistan to Indonesia .

 
At 2/16/2006 04:50:00 AM, Anonymous Jokerman said...

doxraven, you are a thicko!
When i said who is sarsur, i didnt give a moneky's arse who he is because he doesnt represent Islam, for your big brains, there is no one who can represent ISlam, unlike the pope in catholic christianity for example.
Who said Ibrahim sarsur has the support of the masses? where is your proof? who appointed sarsur to speak of Islam? why isnt it the grand sheikh of al Azhar in cairo, or the king of saudi arabia, the custodian of the 2 mosques? what about the aqsa muftim, they all can speak just as better than your mr sarsur, whom i never heard of before.
& which Islam do you mean doxi? Shiite or sunni? surely you realise there r differences between them both, & who said they reasd the same quran even, they read the quran in a literal sense that renders the quran intelligible, they extract the verses from their historical purpose & environmental habitat to suit their own deeds, so pls dont try to be smart in something yiou obviosuly have no idea about, dont talk about Islam & tell me mr goat has the support of the masses, i dont care about the masses or roach(sarsur) even, nothing in the Quran or mohameds teachings says to listen to the masses & that there is one person to speak of ISlam, ok? do you get it now or do i have to overwhelm you with books & titles & names that refute your mr roach & show how ignorant he & the so called masses are?
Its like you have found what you were looking for to prove something & holding on to it with dear life, its nothing doxi, NOTHING, what you are saying or roachie is saying or the masses is saying is not ISLAM, & if we apply your so called subrhetoric about what people practice, then christianity would be contradictory with its own tenets, & the same with judaism aswell, if we were to know each faith by how its followers act then these relgions would be lambasted easily.
your argument is baseless & ridiculous.

 
At 2/16/2006 06:39:00 AM, Anonymous Jokerman said...

I didnt want to bring this up but why the hell not.
I would like to see Muslim countries resurrect the caliphate, that would be fun indeed.
Now mr roach didnt mention by any chance where the caliphate will be?? who will be the calipha i wonder & will he rule over islamic countries while their leaders give up their powers to him??
for the umpteenth time, there is no such thing that Islam should rule over any country, let alone Israel, just like christianity & judaism dont rule over any land, bcause the statement itself has no meaning.

 
At 2/16/2006 07:18:00 AM, Blogger Moron99 said...

"When i said who is sarsur, i didnt give a moneky's arse who he is because he doesnt represent Islam, for your big brains, there is no one who can represent ISlam, unlike the pope in catholic christianity for example."

THAT (see above) is exactly the problem. Relating to this Danish thing, that is also the solution. Seriously, any group that would vote for Galloway is desperate for a voice in politics.

European immigrants have been thrown into a foreign culture and offerred no guidance. They are provided with socialist programs to meet their needs and there are many efforts to "respect their culture". But no one has taken the time to show them how to achieve prosperity and power as individuals within this new culture. They clamour to the mosque seeking answers because it is the thing they know. But western rules prevent mosques, churches, synagouges, and temples from possessing power. The net result is that they see western rules as dicriminatory against them.

It is not enough to simply state the rules. There are more moslim immigrants in Europe than in most mideast nations. The method of trial-and-error will not be a peaceful transition. There are far too many immigrants with far too many needs. Western nations must actively teach their immigrants how to play the western game. This spewing off about caliphates and clash of civilizations is pure BS. It is the topic that a small handful wish for us to discuss. There is something far larger and far more powerful that gives both westerner and moslim a reason to work together as brothers. It is a thing that that crosses all languages and all cultures. It is a desire more powerful than politics and - for most - more powerful than religion. It is family.

Specifcially, is there anyone who can deny that moslems have a deep love for their families and children? Our soldiers in Iraq often comment how deeply these people love their children. Have you not noticed?

We need to use this to bring our peoples together. We need to go into the neighborhood and speak to the parents directly. We need to teach them how to organize political parties and unions. We need to teach them about mortgages, contracts, bank loans, and business plans. We need to teach them how to become empowered. What they need is not hollow words, false promises, or hand-outs. What they need is to be taught. Taught how to make their voice heard and taught how to build a prosperous future. We need to go directly into the community and talk directly to the parents. They are the ones who want to build a better house and to guarantee the future of their children. Once they have become empowered according to western rules of empowerment then they will protect those rules. It is human nature to protect your sources of power.

What is in it for Europe? Hmmm ....
1) no more car-b-ques, better integration of immigrants
2) the ability to communicate directly with all layers of mideast society
3) powerful organizations with socioeconomic reasons to oppose radicalism
4) a virtual moslim nation that can excercise global influence and lead by example
5) fresh genes added into the pool of european stock

 
At 2/16/2006 11:24:00 AM, Blogger doxRaven said...

jokey,

who appointed sarsur to speak of Islam?

i, in turn ask, who appointed you to speak of Islam?

In the end Islam is what is done in its name not what you or I say it is, or even what is written.

you say there is no one that can represent islam

so what? any ant in an ant hill does not represent the colony, yet there is an overall organization and mission.
Some ants will be worker ants feeding the young others will be army ants expanding and defending the colony.

Yes, Islam, as a religion (personal believe system), and not as a political force, does not have the deep hierarchical structure. The US would love to think that getting rid of OBL will somehow solve the problem of fundamentalist Islam. They now have learned otherwise.

I, and I suspect most non-muslims, have no problem with Islam as a personal believe system. When Islam is used as a political and legal instrument to satisfy megalomaniac ambitions, is when the problem starts.

 
At 2/17/2006 10:17:00 AM, Anonymous Boyz without filter said...

What does the bevquf in the right
corner say?
' Good night, sheep-shaggers,
whereever you are ! '

 

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