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Saturday, March 11, 2006

The Danish conference is a failure

With all the shit that already happend, and with the dialogue being the way it is, is anyone surprised?


At 3/11/2006 07:53:00 AM, Blogger jelsted said...

Man, this shit really angers up my blod.

""Mr. Khaled sought to emphasize that "we are here to build bridges for dialogue," and suggested that a continuing boycott of Danish goods in Arab countries could stop if Danes and their government reached out with initiatives like help for small businesses, or health care."" (NY Times)

That sounds pretty much like a bribe or bloodmoney too me. The rational, well we are outraged by the cartoons published in an independent newspaper, so we will boycott all products from Denmark and have some of our citizen riot and burn your embassy, now please pay money or we will continue to be outraged. What the fuck!!!

""Sheikh Youssef el-Qardawi "You have to have a common ground to have a dialogue with your enemy [...] But after insulting what is sacred to me, they should apologize."" (Ny Times)

Just using the word "enemy" clearly reflect, what a self-rightous bastard Qardawi is. Several participants also made clear that they feared a lot of new extremism on both sides. yes.. the passive extremism of the cartoonist is surely to be feared...

At 3/11/2006 08:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anne Kirstine said...

The only comforting news from that conference is that the young participants 25 from Denmark and 25 from the ME had a good time together. They had some good proposals also - like exchange visits, youth conferences and youth dialogues in summer camps.

At 3/11/2006 09:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be angry, Jelsted. Save your adrenaline for something you can control.
It's always unpleasant the hear someone criticize your country.

The best thing to say about the heavily exposed conference was, that it was a platform for saying the unpleasant things in a forum, where both sides are together. It would be a disaster if no-one showed up. Now the anger could be expressed.

Mr Khaled seems not to know, that we already are a big spender of foreign aid.

So following his logic, he would find it fair, if we stopped foreign aid to a country, where there is a boycott.
Pakistan could be an example but in my opinion it would be very sad to hold the more unfortunate people hostage.


At 3/11/2006 09:39:00 AM, Blogger jelsted said...

Dear Q

I do agree with you, but these regimes are already holding unfortunate people hostage. The conflict will only further hamper the result of development aid. There are many other unfortunate contries and people around the world that could use help and where the money would be better spent.

While I dislike the current Danish government handling of the situation, then I'm more upset that autocratic governments in the Middle East are preaching tolerance, what the F#¤% gives them the right? The OIC argue that, the EU should revisit their laws so religions are treated equally, without enforcing it in their own countries, ohhh the hypocracy.

If danish development aid would be better spent, by buying Big Pharaoh a new computer, sending the rest of the aid to Chad or the Congo, where denmark actually has something to apologize for. (Danish citizens heavily involved in the Belgian Congo genocide)

At 3/11/2006 11:01:00 AM, Anonymous questioner said...

How about requiring all protesting muslims to actually purchase a copy of the Jyllands-Posten newspaper and see the cartoons for themselves? Wouldn't change the closed minds of the retards, but would bring a mint to Jyllands-Posten.

At 3/11/2006 01:19:00 PM, Anonymous Seiber said...

“suggested that a continuing boycott of Danish goods in Arab countries could stop if Danes and their government reached out with initiatives like help for small businesses, or health care."" (NY Times)”

What the hell kind of comment is this? This logical thinking puts the cartoonists at a better opportunity for producing more of the comics! Just pay someone and your good to go…

"We request an official apology from your government to the Muslim nation as it happened in Norway," he said. He also demanded that the European Union enact a law "that forbids the insult to religious figures."

My my… Let’s see…. Do as we say… not as we do????


At 3/11/2006 02:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


We have to admit, that the cartoons were printed in a danish newspaper. I didn't print them. You didn't print them. Maybe none of us approve printing them. Even the PM has said, he didn't like the cartoons and adressed in in his new years speech. He can't apologise for something he didn't do. That's oviously not the issue.

And the fact that the cartoons were printed in at least 143 newspaper in 53 countries is neglected and is obviously not important.
We export dairy products, which are easily replaced, with products from other countries, where newspapers printed the cartoons too. So the printing per se can't be the problem.

Back when it all started the issue was, that people in our community were angry or hurt or felt insulted and they wanted an apology from the newspaper. The newspaper has apologised for hurting religious feelings, so that is obviously not the issue anymore.

During the cartoon "war" decisions had to be made. Nobody denies that it must be investigated, but the right way to do it, must be found just a little later in my opinion. I'm not sure that we should have an investigation as long as many religious figures would be more than happy to help us. I think it's the citizens in Denmark, who should decide what was right and what was wrong and not a very angry cleric from Kuwait, demanding and expecting that the danish citizens replaces the government.
If we get more "help" from clerics from countries, where women are not included when it comes to human rights, the danish citizens are going to vote in even greater numbers on the right wing parties, than they do now. The thinly veiled threats he came with on national TV, were not wasted at least not on me. My initial reaction was to do exactly the opposite of what he demanded. I'm not that good with authorities.

I'm glad that we have oil, water, farm land and a strong economy at the moment.


At 3/11/2006 05:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will say that the bribe made me laugh out loud!
You printed the horrible cartoons...now give us money!

At 3/11/2006 08:11:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It has stuff all to do with money. It's all about power and the ability to make others acquiesce to their demands and to do so will give the islamofascists even more determination.

At 3/13/2006 06:43:00 AM, Blogger Chance said...

I think all western countries should have the courage of Australia. I urge them to do the same. Read this article
Adopt Our Values or Go Home, Foreign-Born Muslims Told
Patrick Goodenough
International Editor

(CNSNews.com) - Australian Muslims already unhappy with Prime Minister John Howard's criticism about Islamic radicalism are bristling at even tougher comments from the man tipped to succeed him, who says any Muslim immigrant who can't accept Australian values should leave.

Anyone wanting to live under Islamic law (shari'a) might feel more comfortable living in countries where it is applied, such as Saudi Arabia or Iran, federal Treasurer Peter Costello said in an address to the Sydney Institute, a think tank.

In a pledge of allegiance, immigrants taking on Australian citizenship declare: "I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect and whose laws I will uphold and obey."

Costello said that anyone "who does not acknowledge the supremacy of civil law laid down by democratic processes cannot truthfully take the pledge of allegiance. As such they do not meet the pre-condition for citizenship."

Any Muslim planning to immigrate to Australia should first consider its values.

"Before entering a mosque visitors are asked to take off their shoes," Costello said. "This is a sign of respect. If you have a strong objection to walking in your socks don't enter the mosque.

"Before becoming an Australian you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objection to those values, don't come to Australia."


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