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Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Saturday, March 04, 2006

Pakistan bans blogspot over the cartoons

More on the story that refuses to die. (h/t Danial) Pakistan telecom authorities have blocked several websites inviting people to draw cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, it has emerged. Instructions were issued to internet service providers across Pakistan on 27 February to block about a dozen websites of various origins. [...] Bloggers in Pakistan became first became aware of the ban on 28 February when they were unable to access a popular blog hosting site, Blogspot. One of the blocked sites is hosted on Blogspot, which led to the blocking of all web journals hosted on the site. The Pakistan bloggers found their blogs blocked, even though their blogs are not connected with the cartoons. They say they have still been able to edit and update their blogs, but not able to read them.

The BBC's Aamer Ahmed Khan in Karachi says the blocking is unlikely to turn into a major freedom of expression issue in Pakistan as there seems to be a consensus against allowing such freedom to extend to irreverent treatment of religious figures. Pakistani bloggers agree the blocking of Blogspot cannot be intentional, but are hoping the authorities realise the problem soon and rectify it, he said. There are many ways of blocking specific sites without letting it affect the entire hosting facility, bloggers say. Pakistan, meanwhile, is seeking an internationally applicable law against blasphemy. Okay Europe, I swear to god if you don't oppose that international law against blasphemy, then you are a bunch of spineless cowards that should get their asses kicked repeatedly by 6 year olds midgets. Or something like that!

21 Comments:

At 3/04/2006 01:22:00 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Somebody should let the Pakistanis know that they can access Blogspot blogs via Unipeak:

Unipeak

They just need to know the address of the website that they're searching for. If they don't know that, then they can do a Google search:

Google

Copy the address from the items shown, and paste it into the Unipeak engine.

They should have no problem. That's what we did here in Korea when blogspot was blocked to prevent Koreans from viewing the online beheading of Kim Sun Il, the South Korean who was murdered by Islamists in Iraq back in 2004.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 3/04/2006 01:48:00 AM, Anonymous Don Cox said...

If they bring in a blasphemy law here, we need to take some Muslims to court for referring to Jesus as a "prophet". This should be a capital offence. The Hindus might like to bring some cases against prominent Imams, too. Maybe the Quran ought to be banned?

 
At 3/04/2006 03:18:00 AM, Anonymous Kathy K said...

What Don Cox said...

This could be fun.
"God as no sons" is extreme blasphemy in Christianity. So any Imam making that statement is committing blasphemy.... Of course, any Christian saying that Jesus is the son of God is committing blasphemy according to Islam and Judaism. So all the preachers of all religions are going to have to just shut up... because, whenever they open their mouths, they are going to be committing blasphemy according to another religion. (And that's just looking at those three - gets to be even more fun if you add in Hindus and Buddhists and such.)

 
At 3/04/2006 03:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Pakistani bloggers agree that the blocking of Blogspot cannot be intentional.." how fucking stupid are these people and who asked them,their imams? Of course it's intentional and these people are either too afraid to speak out or they should return their pc's to the place of purchase because they are too fucking stupid to use something that is connected to the electrical grid.

 
At 3/04/2006 03:52:00 AM, Blogger Chip said...

Six year old midgets, but with BIG NASTY TEETH!

Don't get your hopes up, Sandmonkey. Every time I think "there's no way they'll give in to this ridicuous demand," they do.

Be careful about saying you might quit Islam. According to shari'a that can get you in big trouble. Even in the future tense you could be termed an apostate. And I'm sure you know what that means.

Why do I - an ordinary secular American - know so much about Islamic law? I wish I didn't, but decades of threats, fatwas, and terrorist acts made me study up.

 
At 3/04/2006 04:19:00 AM, Anonymous Einherjar said...

Annon 3:18

I think they meant that the intention was to objective was to block speciffic blogs, not all blogs at blogspot. I put it down to lazy blockers.

 
At 3/04/2006 04:20:00 AM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

I quoted most of the article from DAWN in a response to another post. It's pretty sad, but I hadn't realized that all of Blogspot was being blocked. Don't expect much complaint from Pakistan on this, unlike Pakistanis living in the West, because Pakistan is religiously very much a 'satellite' of the Saudi Selafis.

 
At 3/04/2006 06:04:00 AM, Blogger Cate said...

Friday, March 03, 2006

Govt directed to block ‘blasphemous’ websites

By Mohammad Kamran

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court on Thursday directed the government to adopt measures for blocking websites showing ‘blasphemous’ material and summoned the authorities concerned on March 13 to explain why such sites were not blocked earlier keeping in view the sensitivity of the issue.

A full bench of the apex court directed the attorney general (AG), Makhdoom Ali Khan, to explore laws relating to blocking objectionable websites. The AG told the court that registration of cases against those responsible for allowing ‘blasphemous’ material on the internet would be considered under section 295C of the Pakistan Penal Code. “We will not accept any excuse or technical objection on this issue because it relates to the sentiments of the entire Muslim world. All authorities concerned will have to appear in the court on the next hearing with reports of concrete measures taken to implement our order,” said Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry while hearing the constitutional petitions seeking obstruction of websites showing ‘blasphemous’ material on the internet..

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C03%5C03%5Cstory_3-3-2006_pg7_27
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Action Group Against Blogspot Ban in Pakistan

Gathering of Pakistani blogspot users to discuss measures to overturn the ban on the blogspot.com site in Pakistan

http://groups.google.com/group/AGABBIP

 
At 3/04/2006 06:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as I understand the international blasphemy laws are meant to protect Islam, Christianity and Judaism.

With international blasphemy laws it will be blasphemy to mock

- the virgin birth
- the crucifixion
- the resurrection
- the Holy Communion

To question that Christianity is a monotheistic religion, because we have the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost will be insulting and will be banned.

To extend the rules of one religion and to demand the dogmas being respected and followed by people from other religions will face some interesting dilemmas.

Hindus, Buddhist, practising heathens (http://www.fornsidr.dk/index_uk.html) and atheists could demand protection from religions insisting that “There is only on G_d”.

The polytheistic religions could be protected from name calling and the use of the word infidel could be banned.
We could invent new words like Hinduphobic, Atheistphobic and so on..

The buddhists would have a very strong case of extending the dogma of non-violence to everyone else, banning killing, violence and the consumption of meat.

 
At 3/04/2006 06:38:00 AM, Anonymous Rescuing Reason said...

anonymous: Actually Buddhists don't (specifically) believe in a god. I mean, some may believe in a god of some sort, but it's not really a religion. Buddha is kind of an example of how to be, rather than someone to worship.

Right on about the nonviolence and so on.

 
At 3/04/2006 07:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

rescuing reason.

Thank you for exposing my ignorance.

I'm christian but seeing how my religion can be exploited, I would prefer that the buddhist had much more influence - religion or not.

I'm not quite sure that I could say the same for the ones taking the initiative for the blasphemy laws....

 
At 3/04/2006 08:52:00 AM, Blogger Cate said...

Europe's Blasphemy Laws
DW-World
Feb.7,'06

Some Muslim leaders have urged Europe to use blasphemy laws against newspapers that publish cartoons containing representations of the Prophet Mohammed.

Here's a brief overview of laws on blasphemy and incitation to religious hatred in European countries..

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1894686,00.html

 
At 3/04/2006 09:44:00 AM, Blogger Christine said...

Those Euroweenies better not give in this bullshit.

It'll be downhill from there if they do.

 
At 3/04/2006 10:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting the UN to have an interational ban on blasphemy has been mentioned since the beginning of the toon crisis, but the EU an Javier Solanas have said several times that it is out of the question for the EU to agree to such a ban. Of cource it's not only muslim countries who are interested in such a ban on blasphemy, Poland is being more and more influenced by the Catholic church, and then you have the hard core protestants and I'm sure there are lots of others too. As they say, "one man's religion is another man's blasphemy", so this could create a lot of interesting problems. I think we should start a new "religion" that declares believing in Gods idolatry and consequently blasphemus, that could be fun, thihi.
K from Oslo

 
At 3/04/2006 10:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leftists would LOVE having such a law on the books. One step closer to completely silencing anyone talking about their faith, anywhere and everywhere. One step closer to a world where people walk past each other in silence, fearful that anything they say will offend someone. One step closer to a world where the ONLY public opinion, is that spoken by chosen representatives of the government, who would, by that time, be the ONLY source of news, anywhere on the globe.

Big Brother will be that much closer, if such a law is passed.

~Gary

 
At 3/04/2006 12:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Those Euroweenies better not give in this bullshit"

And the danish cartoons were published in every major US newspaper and news section on TV, right?

The blasphemy law will go to the UN, so US will have an opportunity to say what they think about it. They were some of the first to condemn the danish cartoons - first the White House and then former president Clinton.

EU have already said it's out of the question.

 
At 3/04/2006 12:19:00 PM, Blogger Christine said...

Ok, add our own PC-weenies to that bunch then. We're doomed.

 
At 3/04/2006 02:34:00 PM, Blogger DrPak said...

I am a Pakistani blogger affected by the blogspot ban. I see a lot of you are westerners who have little appreciation of what's going on over here. For one thing, the blogger community over here does not take kindly to this at at all. I wrote to the BBC complaining about their ridiculous BBC article which hinted that our response to this outrage was one of understanding and acceptance. Secondly, the blasphemy issue is simply politics, I can assure you that the average Pakistani is waaaaay past it. It's was being milked for all it's worth by the opposition groups and the government, keen not to seem blase about the issue decided to jump onto the bandwagon too. What were are witnessing is the hijacking of religion for political gain. I know that most pakistanis find that more despicable than the cartoons themselves.

We bloggers are rapidly organizing ourselves to launch a media protest against the ban and I'm sure we'll be successful. This stupidity cannot be allowed to go on any longer.

We're organizing at the Action Group Against Blogspot Ban in Pakistan
http://groups.google.com/group/AGABBIP

 
At 3/04/2006 02:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad to hear from you drpak! I'll visit your blog to hear more.

And for christine

http://marchforfreeexpression.blogspot.com/

Q

 
At 3/04/2006 03:43:00 PM, Blogger Christine said...

Islam Comic Book Down Due to Death Threats

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/03/islam-comic-book-down-due-to-death.html

 
At 3/04/2006 04:30:00 PM, Blogger Andrew of Arabia said...

Nothing good could possibly come by encouraging editors to omit information from their columns. How are newspapers supposed to do their job, that of informing readers, when their hands are tied through fear of irrational Islamist aggression. One cannot make an informed decision about this issue - perhaps the most significant news story of the day - without having all of the facts. Newspapers already print descriptions of the cartoons, what is the difference? As there is no difference, there can be no objection to reprinting.

 

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