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Rantings of a Sandmonkey

Be forewarned: The writer of this blog is an extremely cynical, snarky, pro-US, secular, libertarian, disgruntled sandmonkey. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please sod off

Wednesday, February 08, 2006

Boycott Egypt

Freedom For Egyptians reminded me why the cartoons looked so familiar to me: they were actually printed in the Egyptian Newspaper Al Fagr back in October 2005. I repeat, October 2005, during Ramadan, for all the egyptian muslim population to see, and not a single squeak of outrage was present. Al Fagr isn't a small newspaper either: it has respectable circulation in Egypt, since it's helmed by known Journalist Adel Hamoudah. Looking around in my house I found the copy of the newspaper, so I decided to scan it and present to all of you to see. fagr1-plain Here is the original Frontpage of the Newspaper fagr1 fagr1 Here it is pointing out the date and one of the cartoons. Click on the Smaller one to get a bigger resolution. fagr2-arrows Here are the rest of the cartoons inside of the Newspaper Guess we will have to Boycott Egypt now as well, huh? Now while the arab islamic population was going crazy over the outrage created by their government's media over these cartoons, their governments was benifitting from its people's distraction. The Saudi royal Family used it to distract its people from the outrage over the Hajj stampede. The Jordanian government used it to distract its people from their new minimum wage law demanded by their labor unions. The Syrian Government used it to create secterian division in Lebanon and change the focus on the Harriri murder. And, finally, the Egyptian government is using it to distract us while it passes through the new Judiciary reforms and Social Security Bill- which will cut over $300 million dollars in benefits to some of Egypt's poorest families. But, see, the people were not paying attention, because they were too busy defending the prophet by sending out millions of e-mails and SMS-messages, boycotting cheese and Lego and burning Butter and the danish Flag. Let's not even mention the idiots who went the usual route of "It's a jewish conspiracy", spouted the stupid argument about the Holocaust, or went on a diatribe with the old favorite "There is an organized campaign-headed by the west and the jews- to attack and discredit Islam, and we have to defend it". They proved, once again, that the arab world is retarded and deserves no better than its leaders. Whatever...

358 Comments:

At 2/08/2006 11:51:00 AM, Blogger أحمد said...

together
me and my monkey

let's play dear friend

hahahahahah

 
At 2/08/2006 11:55:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Eshta ya Basha!

 
At 2/08/2006 11:57:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sandmonkey - You are my hero!

 
At 2/08/2006 12:01:00 PM, Blogger Leilouta said...

Why don't we just boycott every single thing in the world and start living like cavemen and start all over again?

 
At 2/08/2006 12:15:00 PM, Blogger Solomon said...

Oh are you gonna get the hits.

Good find.

 
At 2/08/2006 12:35:00 PM, Blogger Tomodachi said...

What a fantastic find!

I can't wait till this one spreads.

I give it an hour or two in the blog world and a day for the mainstream media to catch up.

 
At 2/08/2006 12:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank goodness for sandmonkeys in Egypt. Thats all I say.

 
At 2/08/2006 01:17:00 PM, Blogger Kat said...

Heh...did you see where one of the alleged "pictures" came from?

http://www.neandernews.com/?p=54

It was a french pig squeeling contest and somebody sent a faxed copy of a clown doing a pig interpretation to the Imams saying it was a picture of Mohammed as a pig.

It just keeps getting better.

 
At 2/08/2006 01:28:00 PM, Blogger Mark M said...

Congrats on the LGF link...

 
At 2/08/2006 01:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like the previous poster wrote, thank goodness for weblogs. Nice job, sandmonkey.

 
At 2/08/2006 01:30:00 PM, Blogger Jimmy said...

Hey Sandmonkey, why don't you try to translate some of the Arabic written article so that the pictures published in the (unknown) newspaper be put in correct context??

 
At 2/08/2006 01:31:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sandmonkey....you ROCK!!! Thank god there are people like you living in this world...RESPECT!!!

Cheers from Prague!

 
At 2/08/2006 01:34:00 PM, Blogger Conan The Librarian said...

Holy smoking gun, Batman! This is great. Good work!!!

 
At 2/08/2006 01:58:00 PM, Blogger Krystalline Apostate said...

sandmonkey:
I'd actually read that the Danes had published the cartoons in Sept. 2005.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/the-real-truth-behind-the-cartoons-fury/2006/02/08/1139379569017.html
"The Danish cartoons only sparked some mild complaints when they first appeared last September."
& the US State Dept. is blaming it on Syria & Iran:
http://sify.com/news/international/fullstory.php?id=14137193
At which I roll my eyes.
My govt. is so full of twits & idiots, it's embarassing.

As to my nick:
It never occurred to me, when I became the reluctant atheist, that anyone would start referring to me as 'RA'.
So apologies if anyone has the wrong idea about me.

 
At 2/08/2006 02:03:00 PM, Blogger Yazan said...

Brilliant, Absolutly brilliant...

 
At 2/08/2006 02:05:00 PM, Blogger Yaakov Kirschen said...

SandMonkey, you're the greatest!
I'll be linking to this incredible post of yours tomorrow. Thanks for doing what you do. you hold out hope for our region.

Shalom Salaam Peace,
Dry Bones
Israel's Political comic Strip since 1973

 
At 2/08/2006 02:06:00 PM, Blogger egyptiansally said...

but because it was in an egyptian newspaper it was okay to reprint because they were lambasting the cartoons instead of lauding free speech? isn't reprinting still showing drawings of the prophet and therefore still *haram* cause there's still the fear of idolatry?

 
At 2/08/2006 02:06:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO STUPID.....STOP WITH THIS NONSENSE AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES.LEAVE THE DANES ALONE!!! i NEVER SAW SUCH CLOSED MINDEDNESS....YOU PEOPLE ARE LOSERS...

 
At 2/08/2006 02:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brilliant find Sandmonkey,

we bloggers should do our best to spread this - the mainstream media will ignore it if they can.

Deepdiver

 
At 2/08/2006 02:14:00 PM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Sally, isn't that the perfect little question? LOL

And can I mention again that it was during Ramadan and nothing happend? Cause, like, I can't stress that enough!

 
At 2/08/2006 02:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Editor of the Sandmonkey blog:

This is my first letter of complaint to your fine publication, and I mean no disrespect but me and the boys just had to write in to protest:

This is just getting too easy.

You know, the boys and me started this whole thing in the back of Bud's Bar one day, where a bunch of us were sitting around spitting tobacco and cheating at poker.

Uncle Sam threw down his cards in disgust and said..." I'm sick of doing this every Saturday Night, let's do something different. Let's get a bunch of Muslim Extremists all riled up!

So the whole thing began...Usama, the wars...you know the drill.

WELL, it's just TOO easy! PLEASE! Make it just a little hard!

Make us work for it, DAMMIT!

We don't want to just limp on with the old "Look at that" to get the Extremists to look any direction we want them to so we can sucker punch them! Or take them out to the boonies one night with a flashlight so they can go "snipe" hunting. Or just resort to sneaking up them and give them a gigantic wedgie so they go berserk, run out, burn, trample and shoot each other in rabid rage.

When Erik Dane told us he wanted to publish a bunch of cartoons in his newspaper to get 'em riled...why we laughed him right outta there!

Snorted right at him! Hrr Hrr Hrr!

"Jesus, you're dumb" we said..."nobody's gonna get mad about a bunch of dumba** cartoons!"

We even pulled his free pass to Friday Night Bingo at the Rod and Gun Club.

Damned if those Extremists didn't leave the gang eatin' crow and Erik having a horse laff riot!

We got some self-respect!

So if the Extremists can't give us a little sport...well, me and the boys are gonna be lookin' to take our business elsewhere!

Respectfully (but not backing down),

Buzz, Sam, Bob, Mack, Pyle and Erik (yeah, he made us let him back in the club)

 
At 2/08/2006 02:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

super great job ! congrats

 
At 2/08/2006 02:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great work, Sandmonkey.
Thanks.

 
At 2/08/2006 02:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparantly you guys havnt read this

 
At 2/08/2006 03:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its a great thing that we no longer have to rely on large newspapers and TV networks for information

 
At 2/08/2006 03:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Er...
with all due respect to the muslim peoples...
WHY should non muslims be respectful of a prophet THEY do not believe in????

How can we respect a religion that goes ape-sh*t every freeking 2 weeks and threatens to blow everything up??? (and denies the holocaust!!!)

I mean nothing personal, but I was raised Christian, and even tho' I'm not a church going fella right now, I know my history and there is no way I believe that the same angel (gabriel) went to Mary, proclaimed the birth of the son of God who fulfilled every prophesy regarding Christ, and then up and changed his mind 5 hundred years later and went to some arab and denied the whole incarnation!!! (hay...I'm a good suthern baptist boy...I paid attention some)

of course I'm anonymous, these people are insane!!!

 
At 2/08/2006 03:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dearly hope that sandmonkey , or anyone reading this blog, has made the danish government aware of this.

 
At 2/08/2006 03:48:00 PM, Blogger Laban said...

Juan Cole is a Juan Kerr. He forgot to mention the riot in Aarhus.

I think it was probably the 'extra' cartoons that did the damage. The ones the Danish imams found under a gooseberry bush.

Thanks SM for this post.

 
At 2/08/2006 03:56:00 PM, Blogger Steve said...

do they read newspapers during Ramadam?

 
At 2/08/2006 04:02:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for them. It's sad to see people get so upset over a cartoon anyway. Yeah, let's kill people over a cartoon. I swear the stupidity is unnerving sometimes.

 
At 2/08/2006 04:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SM...You just got instalaunched!

 
At 2/08/2006 04:07:00 PM, Blogger A Teacher in Texas said...

The TRUTH is out there, and you've found part of it! Keep up the good work, Sandmonkey!

 
At 2/08/2006 04:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of the newspapers that won't print the cartoons can surely now print the picture of the cartoons in an Egyptian newspaper. Can't they?

 
At 2/08/2006 04:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good work man.

This simply shows the manipulation of islamic leaders. As a French man, and as
a defendor of freedom and liberty of speech, I totally feel interdependent of Danish people. We shall not accept that untolerant Islamic beliefs be imposed to every one included our free countries.

Muhammad advocated violence and you can find calls to murder in the name of Islam in the Coran. A catholic preast was assasinated in Turkey by a 16 muslim boy yelling "Allah wakbar" because of the caricatures. This real martyrdom not your fanatic suicide bombers!!!!

 
At 2/08/2006 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well sankmonkey, you posted the pictures too, we have to boycott your blog now as well lol.
The funny thing is people didn't boycott except Danish goods because they are few, if they're serious about it they should boycott all European goods, we'll see how they can survive that!!!

 
At 2/08/2006 04:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way, hypocricy goes both ways, the guardian published an article on Monday about the same paper (yes the same exact hysterical defender of free speech) refusing to publish some cartoons three years ago citing they'd be insulting to christians and would be considered as unneccessary provocation.
here's the link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1703501,00.html

I really wonder if anyone of the respondents above is going to gloat and drool over the hypocricy of the danish newspaper as much as they did with egyptian one.
Somehow I'm almost certain most of them will try to rationalize an excuse.

 
At 2/08/2006 04:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"i dearly hope that sandmonkey , or anyone reading this blog, has made the danish government aware of this."

I did!!!
Plus all danish newspapers!

Regards
eyvind dk

 
At 2/08/2006 05:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, and without reservation, thanks you. This is "Rather"-esque in it's proportions, and validates the worth of the whole global media 'net endeavor.

However, where are the truly dark cynics to ask this:

What if Sandmonkey photoshopped his whole piece? Ask yourself: How would you know?

"knock, knock, neo..."

 
At 2/08/2006 05:21:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Juan Cole actually makes good points in charting the issue.

The point was that sandmonkey's article a bit misrepresenting.

It refers to them being publish in egypt in October 2005, but the original publishing of them in Denmark on 30 September 2005 by Jyllands-Postenseptember pre-dates this

 
At 2/08/2006 05:23:00 PM, Blogger Krishna109 said...

Great job, Sandmonkey! :-)

Actually, one of the most fascinating aspects of this is how, in almost every paper here (the U.S.) they self-righteously proclaim "pictures of Mohammed are absolutely forbidden in Islam"-- or words to that effect. Then they go on to say how they are for free speech, of course-- but that the right to free speech doesn't extend to to publishing anything that may "upset" people.

What a bunch of morons!!!

As far as I know, almost all papers in the entire US have refused to print the cartoons. (I believe only 2 have so far).

No wonder more and more people are turning away from newspaper & TV news, and looking in the blogosphere to see what's really happening . . .

 
At 2/08/2006 05:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yasmina said: How dare they dishonor my prophet..Its bad enough the Infidels and the Jews disrespect my great religion".

See, that's just it Yasmina, IT'S NOT OUR PROPHET, IT'S YOURS! What part of that don't you understand?

 
At 2/08/2006 05:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love your site sandmonkey. Please keep up the good work exposing the hypocracy.
Very suspicious false outrage for such a ridiculous set of cartoons.

 
At 2/08/2006 05:44:00 PM, Blogger Gateway Pundit said...

Sandmonkey! Fantastic job! Congrats to you and Freedom for Egyptians!

 
At 2/08/2006 05:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Major league expose, Sam. I'm seeing, I'm seeing, hmmmmm a career in investigative journalism for Sam aka Sandmonkey. A Pulitzer, even.

Bridget

 
At 2/08/2006 05:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never seen this site before. I may never visit again.

But you seem to have NAILED THE LIES. NAILED THE UTTER SICK HYPOCRISY of the Middle East.

It is time we woke up and realised that many of these imams and their flocks HATE us, that they will use any tactic to stir up more hatred, more violence.

This is a Dan Rather moment.

Good luck. Within days, the whole damn world will be visiting your site.

 
At 2/08/2006 05:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Laban, "Juan Cole is a Juan Kerr"

HAHAHAHAHAHA very funny.

Bridget

 
At 2/08/2006 06:23:00 PM, Blogger programmer craig said...

Does Egypt have an embassy in Denmark? Just wondering...

 
At 2/08/2006 06:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel that I am dreaming. I am so glad that I found this blog and have the opportunity to meet fellow Egyptians who match my views

 
At 2/08/2006 06:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing find, good job. Hopefully this will discredit some of the governments that have been using this scandal to cover up their own inability to govern.

 
At 2/08/2006 07:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Six Days (www.sixdaysmore.blogspot.com)

SD, this is bigger than Dan Rather. You may have just scored the biggest blogsosphere coup ever! Unfortunately, the scalp you just got was that of the entire Muslim world's.
When this gets out it will put Murbarak and co. in a very uncomfortable situation. The Jordanian precendent is an interesting one to examine in this regard. More can be expected in Egypt. I fear for the editors of the Egyptian paper more than I fear for those brave souls who were arrested in Jordan recently.
And I fear for you SD so take care. You may have to leave the country, you may just have fired the shot heard around the Muslim world, and made Murbarak look like a right twat before his fellow Arab leaders. This in not good for his already shaky position, and he will not want more of the same. The Egyptian blogosphere may be headed for a rather nasty crackdown.
Be safe, be well, take care and make sure there are people who expect to hear from you regularly, and are prepared to issue statements on your behalf if you are no longer heard.
Do not go the way of Karfan...

Shalom,

Six Days.

 
At 2/08/2006 08:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you advertise this link please?
http://new.petitiononline.com/namazie/petition.html

 
At 2/08/2006 08:09:00 PM, Blogger Meg Q said...

jamal -
"Juan Cole actually makes good points in charting the issue.

The point was that sandmonkey's article a bit misrepresenting.

It refers to them being publish in egypt in October 2005, but the original publishing of them in Denmark on 30 September 2005 by Jyllands-Postenseptember pre-dates this"

Um, what did Sandmonkey misrepresent? His point is that these cartoons were published IN EGYPT immediately FOLLOWING their publication in Denmark (no conflict with your final paragraph above, right?), and there was no conflagration in the streets, no "Death to Denmark", "Death to the Cartoonists", SMS-enabled protests, etc. Nope. It was all chillax. The cartoons are (again, let me restate this) published in an Egyptian newspaper in Oct 2005, no jihad announced, no fatwa pronounced. BUT the s**t gets stirred at a propitious moment in January 2006, and all of a sudden it's "Boycott Denmark", burn the flag of Denmark (one of the most painfully tolerant countries in the world), riots, etc. It's just kinda -- weird.

Another problem is that Mr. Cole does not, as we say in America, know his rear end from his elbow.

 
At 2/08/2006 08:12:00 PM, Blogger Meg Q said...

P.S. Sandmonkey, if you need to skip the country, we have a nice air mattress in a spare bedroom in Alberta, Canada -- good asylum laws here too. Though maybe some of your new Euro readers might be closer . . .

 
At 2/08/2006 08:17:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder if Syria and Iran are boycotting Danish and EU aid money as well?
Interesting read here. Thanx

 
At 2/08/2006 08:58:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too funny.

 
At 2/08/2006 09:13:00 PM, Blogger a guy in pajamas said...

Great job!

As for hypocrisy:

"By the way, hypocricy goes both ways, the guardian published an article on Monday about the same paper (yes the same exact hysterical defender of free speech) refusing to publish some cartoons three years ago citing they'd be insulting to christians and would be considered as unneccessary provocation."

Completely different situation. First, the Christians weren't threatening free speach. The Jyllands-Posten editor made it very clear the Muhammed cartoons were published to test the boundaries, to see if, after the murder of Theo van Gogh for making a film that attacked Islam, Denmark was still free.

Second, a great many newspapers and magazines in the West have already published cartoons lampooning and insulting Jesus, Christianity and Christians. It's been done; it is, in fact, cliche, which is about the same in the publishing world as not being halal, eh?

 
At 2/08/2006 09:39:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another problem is that Mr. Cole does not, as we say in America, know his rear end from his elbow.

You mean his ass from his elbow.... It's okay, you can say it; this isn't the BBC.

 
At 2/08/2006 09:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the view of me and not the entire USA, this blog is meant for terrorists and people who are blind and don't think, yes people this is a rant. I have to say, anyone who is offended by this has got to shut up and actually think, why the heck should a person be killed by a cartoon.. Come on... you have to boycott products of different countires because of a cartoon!?! Be that way then... As an American I can tell you that only 2 newspapers in the US has even published this cartoon, Islam allows "PeaceFul" demonstrations not violence, this just shows that no one can fully trust anyone in the Middle-East if all they do is just blow sh!t up and claim a Jihad for what happened to SOMEONE ELSE... Jihad this.. Jihad that, I'm getting tired of this crap, everyday all I hear is that one "suicide bomber" blew a truck just to kill 4 other people who didn't even do a dang thing to him, and what the heck is with this if you go and kill yourself by way of Suicide Bombing that you get virgins in heaven? hardly anyone on this planet is a virgin man... I don't think you can just spawn a 20 year old virgin who already has her legs open, and besides... isn't it like against Islam for you take a woman to bed if your not married? lol wtf is up with you guys?? if your mad about a bunch of dumb DRAWINGS then tell us, not throw stones at everything you see. and why the heck are they directing anger towards my country? We aren't the "Leader" of Europe nor are we the "Leader" of the Infidels, is everything an infidel to you people? I mean... killing someone because of a drawing is called Murder man... not a fuking Jihad. Go ahead and boycott Egyptian and Denmark goods, it'll just hurt your economy and make you want to blow up more shit in the end. and never call the USA Tyrants, we just had an industry since our "Industrial Age" and just had major debts by various countries from WWII that had to be paid off. YES we DID become a SUPER POWER in 4 yrs, stop whining about it, everyone broke their backs just to get this far, and so didn't your country, we just got "Lucky". if your still "Jealous" move to the US then. don't want too? then shut up! No the USA is NOT saying that Iran, Syria or any other dang country is up to sh!t by making this whole Cartoon thing out of control, we said we think "Terrorist Organizations" might be up to something, but we have to see who is. you people think I'm arrogant? good, if you hate me good. then you just hate every dang bit of me, my ancestors came from England, Germany, Italy, Scottland and Ireland, go ahead and hate them too, you'll just find out that you made an even worse enemy. Your still mad? Think again, you people burn every countries flag and no one has burned yours, we take your slander your suicide bombings we take your stupidity and IF we did burn your flag you'd all go ape-Sh!t and blow more sh!t up, believe me, if we didn't want to take any of your crap, your country would be the WORLDS parking lot right now. No one hates you, we just hate how you act and think stop this nonsense and look at how people look at your religion now. Sand Monkey awesome find, I can see this on CNN in a few days, I've sent this to their e-mail address. and please, don't delete or move this post, let people read and make their own opinions, even if they are mad about what I have typed. Egypt and Denmark, you are both Pioneers as of this moment, it's something the World even the USA should learn from.

 
At 2/08/2006 09:48:00 PM, Blogger dabydeen said...

Great find! Now I wonder what the excuses are going to be ...

 
At 2/08/2006 10:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey couldn't of said it better myself. I live in Australia and it is the same here as well. Can't muslims resolve things peacefully without going of there brain, wanting to kill. We don't live in a world of murder and oppression anymore, the world in governed by laws and a mutual respect for society. Furthermore, apparently Islam is supposed to be a peaceful religion. I don't see anything peaceful in what the Mulim world wide community is doing.

 
At 2/08/2006 11:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How nice, another weak link. I appreciate you telling the truth to the Muslims in your community but you will be of no use to them seeing as how you shill for their enemies. IT is true that they will never love you until you become them. They will not allow you to be "extremely cynical", "snarky", "secualur", "libertarian" or "disgruntled" about their prophets and religion but they can certianly come here to insult the dishonor those of your people. So long as you keep with their line you will be fine. I hope you will not cross it, or you will be in their waste basket where you belong.

 
At 2/08/2006 11:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

More power to your pen sandmonkey. I shall burn a flag in your honour while ranting and raging like a moron.

 
At 2/08/2006 11:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You rule!!!
(Tibi, Romania)

 
At 2/09/2006 12:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

See http://indspeak.wordpress.com/ encouraging an email comapign to aljazeera to try and get them to print this story.

It would be great if the average Arab actually learned of this hypocracy (sp?)

 
At 2/09/2006 01:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it Al Fagr or El Fagr (www.elfarg.org)?
Just asking?

 
At 2/09/2006 01:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your post has been printed in an Belgian newspaper... I hope you won't riot about that ;)

URL is http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelid=DMF09022006_010

Greetz from Belgium.

Lukas

 
At 2/09/2006 01:46:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

sandmonkey,

maybe you'll find that interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8959820

the foto of barrot was misused by danish islamic societys ahmad akkari, who claimed it was one of those cartoons of the prophet (pbuh).

 
At 2/09/2006 01:49:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw your site on a Belgian newspaper. http://www.nieuwsblad.be
I hope your action will be noticed by all the fools who are attacking attakking ambassy's. Nice job!!!

Regards from Belgium

Hans

 
At 2/09/2006 01:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone inform the newest islamist in Egypt Shiekh AMR ADIB,
whom I think is the instigator of the reaction in Egypt.

 
At 2/09/2006 02:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

who wants to kill someone just because he expressed his views (even if they hurt others). It may hurts you, but doesn't hurst someone else. So it's subjective, and if 1 person can decide that this person did something that deserves that we kill him, where are we then? dark cave time; in this way, everyone may have a point killing his neighbourg because he thinks and is convinced that he did something wrong to him!! If for some drawings you're making a hisotry, what about Da Vinci Code? the Church objected, but didn't emit a fatwa to kill Dan Brown, or to burn the editor house, or to censure the book, etc. It marked it's opposition, peacfully, rigourously, but that's it. Italy didn't boycott US products nor burned US interest worldwide. It's so narrow-minded.

 
At 2/09/2006 02:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great stuff Sandmonkey. Loved reading it. Not because this gives me as a European any right to insult the prophet. But this says that if a major Egyptian newspaper cannot get it right. Who can expect European newspapers to see the "insult" in printing the cartoons.

 
At 2/09/2006 02:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is this not covered by Al Jazeera.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess it's only a horrible sin if it's published in a WESTERN newspaper.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:47:00 AM, Blogger Jason Pappas said...

Excellent find. Bravo. The press in the West is so ignorant of Islam and Arab culture. This doesn't surprise me.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:47:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sand monkey: You represent the best of the blog space. This type of exposure of the world's stupidity is what millions of independant publishers is all about.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I forwarded your link to all danish news papers.
Hopefully the story breaks.
Thanks for your effort sand monkey

From a danish visitor.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the hype over a few cartoons!!! State controlled mid-eastislamic newspapers have been publishing radically anti-american, anti-western and particularly anti-israel and anti-jewish cartoons for years... a taste of their own medicine is well due. (for an example of muslim anti-everythingbutmuslim cartoons search on google 1967 6 day war nasser cartoons etc)

 
At 2/09/2006 03:56:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree... cartoons like this one that only represent recent events should definitely be permitted in the media

 
At 2/09/2006 04:30:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you. How did egyptian newspaper comment the cartoons? Would you be so kind to translate, please?
Un saluto dall'Italia
Anna

 
At 2/09/2006 04:48:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously SandMonkey, translate the paper cuttings you copied? Tell you what, I'll translate it if you refuse to!
The paper is basically reporting on the event. It is stating literally "the vile act still continues" (al waka7a mustamera). The paper by no means is showing the images for the heck of it, it is showing them to the Muslim readers as a proof of what's going on in Europe.

SandMonkey, I'm guessing you're probably a Christian Egyptian, but at least have some respect to your Muslim Arab brothers that live with you everyday in Egypt. Don't post things out of context and use the ignorance of the westerner in the Arabic language to push a false point.

Syrian in the UK

 
At 2/09/2006 05:00:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Bassem
but the point is, an egyptian paper printed the cartoons MONTHS ago.. how come its such a big deal NOW?

 
At 2/09/2006 05:12:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Bassem, first of all: Thanks for the translation. I would have also included the title on the first page: "Cartoons used to mock the Prophet and his wives". This is the only way to ensure I don't "mislead" my readers in any way.

Second of all, I am not a christian. I am a muslim who has had it up to hear with the irrational emotional knee-jerk reactions the world muslim community continues taking. And contrary to your belief, just because I don't agree with you on something, doesn't make me a christian. But weak criticism tactic if it was true btw. Very weak.

Third of all, where did I put things out of context exactly? The Newspaper did publish the cartoons, no? Isn't this whole outrage about how it's forbidden for the newspapers to publish the cartoons because Islam forbids any kind of image to be made of Mohamed, let alone an offensive one? How it's haram to include his pic in the newspaper no matter in what context that may be? Isn;t that why the jordanian editor got arrested, and the french editor got fired? Well, my friend, Al Fagr didn;t care about that, and they published the cartoons during Ramadan nonetheless. You think that's something those people who are rioting because drawing the prophet in sacriligious would approve of? Didn;t think so.

So, where, exactly, did I used the ignorance of the westerner of the arabic language to push a false point ya zalamah? Or were you just making an ass out of yourself for no reason?

 
At 2/09/2006 05:14:00 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

*up to here

 
At 2/09/2006 05:25:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

well guys this is all great, sandmonkey youre the best, and I'm saying that only because it is so good to see someone like you rising against hypocracy of the muslim world.
first, let me say that by all means I think islamic so-called rage is not justified by HUMAN values, and personally I think this ordeal is just an excuse for rioting and breaking all hell lose, and also for political reasons of mustering up fundementalist groups all around the world in order to polerize muslim and western nations.
however - this news paper you've scanned is without any date on it, and the writing in it clearly refers to the "Jyllands-posten" incident, and the name of the Danish paper is mentioned.
Even without this post - absurdity and shere evil in the muslim rhetorics and actions is more than enough, but I simply had to say something about it.
keep up the good work and never give up to ignorance.
Amit.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:37:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only proves the incoherence of islamic fanatics that have nuttin else better to do than judge franctically before looking at themselves first...

Great post sandmonkey, very interesting and revealing.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:49:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

waddayouknow.

The newspaper removed that issue from their website. :-)

Makes you think.....

 
At 2/09/2006 05:50:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Awesome! This should be passed on to as many media as possible.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing...

Great, great post Sandmonkey. People like you make the world a little more sensible.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the record, the context of the publication of the cartoons in the Egytian paper was obvious even without the translation, at least to this American. The point appears to be that you can publish the cartoons to explain your rage or criticm of the Denmark paper's decision to publish, but if you (as in Jordan) publish the cartoons and ask people to stop and think, then off to jail you go.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:00:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great! Damn those fanatics!

 
At 2/09/2006 06:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Deodo2006
I agree with all your comments . unfortunately , fanatics take advantage of the masses and the unemployed youth to cause that kind of violence .

sadmonkey . first of all I Cant find a link to the website of al fagr paper . I looked up Egyptian papers no sign of fagr. second that front page says Koran made in Israel , so dont you think if you buy arabic papers, and read arabic , dont you think that story would have cause massive reactions all over the world ? why everyone is quiet and the editor of Al far (if it exists ) is not in hiding. ? by the way Some Photoshops experts can make me look like a 6ft model too.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if the Egyptian paper is real or not, and i honestly don't think it matters. I am Muslim, and I am also a normal, rational, sane thinking American. I think those fools on TV are morons, they have NO education, no jobs, nothing except for hatred and bitterness. It's sad and very embarrassing to be lumped in the same group with them. A LOT of muslims agree with me!! People always say, "where are the moderate muslims?" WE'RE AROUND, but I personally don't go running around to news stations trying to get broadcast saying what I think. I just write on little blogs like this one and hope someone reads it and realizes, all Muslims are not evil, bomb making psychos. As an American, and as a Muslim, 9/11 was one of the worst days of my life, to watch something like that happen to my beloved country allegedly in the name of my beloved religion, it's a horror most cannot imagine. So just understand that we're not all like what you see on Tv.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:14:00 AM, Blogger Nurhuda Nordin said...

Clearly, the cartoons are STEREOTYPES. and so is your statement on "the arab world is retarded".

So I can to.
The west are stupid. They don't know why people keep bombing them but they continue to send CORDIAL INVITES to terrorists.

obviously, your idea of freedom of press is the exact abuse of it.

ONE RIGHT STOPS WHEN IT CROSSES OVER THE LIMIT OF ANOTHER.

In this case, clear cut islam-ism. you lack respect for another religion.

I PITY YOU.

ps:Besides, I can do the exact replica of your PICTURES with photoshop. try better next time.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:24:00 AM, Blogger Nurhuda Nordin said...

forget it. I feel embarassed that my own fellow muslim does not know that the images of prophet muhammad p.b.u.h is strictly forbidden.

I pray for you.

in my opinion, you are likened to those dictators who rule that women should be punished for adultery but man gets away with it when clearly, in Islam, there are proper ways to deal with it. you are in other words, in need to learn more. good luck.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

madhatterlicious,

You complain about stereotypes and then embody them by having no concept of freedom of speech, thought or expression.

Freedom of speech BEGINS where it offends people. There is no need to protect freedom of speech for people who say only what is acceptable to everyone else. Dumb ass.

If you think Sandmonkey photoshopped the pictures can you not track down an archived version of the paper and find out for certain. If you really think he is defrauding the world can you not get up off your ass to easily prove it rather than hurl accusations that you know are probably not true?

The only problem with the Muslim world is that they allow the lowest of the low-brow like the rioters, the anti-Semites, madhatterlicious and petty-ante dictators and holy rollers to represent them. There comes a time in every civilization when it has to clean house or dissolve. One of the best ways to clean house is to point at people like madhatterlicious and laugh even if they feel that being laughed at justifies violence. When you allow your behavior to be modified by threats of violence you have accepted the roll of victim. Freedom is claimed, not granted.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

madhatterlicious said:
"I feel embarassed that my own fellow muslim does not know that the images of prophet muhammad p.b.u.h is strictly forbidden."

Are you really so stupid that it has not occur to you that most Danish people, including the newspaper editors are not Muslims?

And from your above comment it appears that you now agree that the Egyptian paper was wrong to publish the cartoons and that everyone throwing a hissy fit now are hypocrites because they are not calling for the violence against that paper. You have come along way in ten minutes.

 
At 2/09/2006 07:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

cheers my friend .. a respectable flamish (Belgian) newspaper took your scoop .. Nice work habebe

D.

 
At 2/09/2006 07:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

some muslim in egypt who publish the cartoon are legal to kill, they're more dangerous than non-muslim.

 
At 2/09/2006 07:52:00 AM, Blogger Christopher said...

I linked to your article, as have what seems to be much of the blogosphere.

However, I am curious as to what the Al-Fagr article says. Perhaps you could give, if not a translation, at least a summary.

I am curious as to why there is such a reaction, now, when there was not, then. Why were Jordanian editors fired and arrested when Egyptian editors, obviously, got very little attention?

 
At 2/09/2006 08:05:00 AM, Blogger SavtaDotty said...

I've been sort of boycotting Egypt for all of my life, especially the last 18 years that I've lived in Israel, so does this mean I have to go visit the pyramids? now?

 
At 2/09/2006 08:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this newspaper thingy is real, then the 'muslim' world has some serious questions to ask.

Hope world war 3 doesn't start because of this..

 
At 2/09/2006 09:13:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When all these facts become exposed, the only loser in this popularity contest will be Islam.

 
At 2/09/2006 09:16:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is an article in the Danish newspaper B.T where the Danish ambassador in Egypt confirms the publication of the images in the Egyptian press.

http://www.bt.dk/nyheder/artikel:aid=419918:fid=100300456/

The article is in danish.

Rock and Roll...

 
At 2/09/2006 09:20:00 AM, Blogger Olli Haukkovaara said...

What "Yasmina or Jess" said:
"As a Muslim girl I am offended." clip... "I want the person that reprinted this killed immediately..Hang him in the middle of Midan Tharir while your on it blow up the whole building that the newspaper was printed in anyone that works there and doesn't quit is a sell out and a traitor kill em I say!.."

As a Human of this planet, I have started to wonder if creatures like that Muslim girl "Yasmina or Jess" are some kind of Aliens that look like us but think like hostile aliens from some other part of space. Kill, explode, blow up, hang, murder... Is she a Klingon? But seriously: I don't understand. If someone insults another, why it's necessary to kill him/her? Eye for eye - insult for insult. But not death for insult. Is responding with with violence to insults a part of Islam? I doubt... More about my thoughts about this issue at:

http://nyctalus.blogspot.com/2006/02/are-we-on-road-to-religious-war.html

 
At 2/09/2006 09:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOOD GRIEF, some of these people are amazing in their utter refusal to face facts. Accusations of photoshopping the pictures? COME ON. If you morons had ever read this site before, you'd know that Sandmonkey is no fake. You idiotarian trolls WISH he was, so your pathetic world view could be reinforced. Wake the hell up.

And WTF with linking to a champion asshat like JUAN COLE (Jamal)? BAHAHAHAHAA!!! Hey, I know, Osama bin Laden said the Americans (and of course the Joooz!) are responsible for all that's wrong in the world, so hey, someone said it so it must be true! Really, Juan Cole? You're killing me! LMAO!

Might I suggest that some of you mentally impaired trolls take a look around this site before you go crapping in the comments without a shred of a clue in your arsenal (or arse)?

Sandmonkey, you are one rockin' revolutionary, y'know? :-) Be safe--I see how some of these extremists have come to threaten you here, because their ideology is so corrupt and false that they feel they have to silence all hints of anything contrary to what they believe. It's a quite telling commentary on their beliefs. Heh.

xoxoxo my friend!

(Whoops, I hope I didn't disturb the religious police with the "xoxoxo!")

 
At 2/09/2006 09:49:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's hilarious is these toons are nothin. There was a drawing somewhere online that was of the prophet Muhammid getting screwed by a dog. LMAO. That is FUNNY

 
At 2/09/2006 09:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCKING PATHETIC!

 
At 2/09/2006 10:02:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C
http://drawmohammed.com/
http://www.drawmohammad.com/paint/

 
At 2/09/2006 10:06:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cruzan @ 9:20am said

As a Human of this planet, I have started to wonder if creatures like that Muslim girl "Yasmina or Jess" are some kind of Aliens that look like us but think like hostile aliens from some other part of space. Kill, explode, blow up, hang, murder... Is she a Klingon? But seriously: I don't understand. If someone insults another, why it's necessary to kill him/her? Eye for eye - insult for insult. But not death for insult. Is responding with with violence to insults a part of Islam? I doubt... More about my thoughts about this issue at:

Lay off, Yasmina, will you? She's not like that. What she posted is sarcasm. Had you been around long enough, you would know that.


jonas

 
At 2/09/2006 10:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck sand Niggers and Fuck muhamid u people r fucked up in the head and all deserve 2 die if you really give a fuck about a cartoonist uts 2006 if u cant take a joke then die. die mad slow

 
At 2/09/2006 10:39:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear anon 10:18

Be careful not to bite your tongue - it might kill you.

 
At 2/09/2006 10:51:00 AM, Blogger marine_explorer said...

On a more core, philosophical level, I find it curious how westerners are accused of depicting Muhammad, when obviously nobody knows what he looked like. If we happened to call a Mickey Mouse cartoon by that name, would it cause offense too? Why should a non-Muslim care, or a Muslim find offense? Should any religion be so weak as to feel threatened by a mere drawing?

 
At 2/09/2006 11:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:18am

Any remotely valid point you may have wanted to express are drowned in your racist remarks. You add nothing to the current debate. You're just too stupid to know better. Go away, jerkwad. Racists aren't welcomed at this blog.



jonas

 
At 2/09/2006 11:37:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Link to "Taqiyya" movie of how cartoons ended up i Egypt, pretty good.

http://media.putfile.com/Taqiyya78

Best regards,
Per, Sweden

 
At 2/09/2006 11:50:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wagas: You obviously have misunderstood Sand monkey's post. What he is saying is that the Egyptian news paper re-published the cartoons and nothing else.

 
At 2/09/2006 11:56:00 AM, Blogger Dag said...

I caught the review of your blog in the Christian Science Monitor some time back. Good for you.

Now let me use your blog to promote another man working for freedom:

http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/

You will have to bypass the warning flag some of our more unreasonable friends have erected.

Thank you, Dag.

 
At 2/09/2006 12:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't wait until someone craps on a Koran and posts that photo on the internet. Sandmonkey, are you up for it??

 
At 2/09/2006 12:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo man! You're famous!

 
At 2/09/2006 12:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's really as simple as this...
Muslims, Christians and Jews all have Moses and the Ten Commandments in common. One of those commandments (and I think the most pertinent of them all) is "Thou shall not kill". Now, this is the word of Allah, God, or Jehovah or whatever name you want to call it (I refuse to limit God by referring to God as "him" and yes, I'm a guy. It's not a guy thing...). If you are so fanatic that you think your religion and all that it stands for is so important and you place sooooo... much value on it, then you would not go against one of God's most important commandments. If you do, then you are a hypocrit and have no right to defend your sense of religious character. What would God say? You think God meant to say, "Thou shall not kill! Except for the ___ (you fill in the blank)" I mean REALLY!!! You either follow God's laws or you don't. Man has always rationalized his/her way to doing whatever they want and they always will. Whether it's killing another human being, stealing from them or any other immoral thing. I find that most people who claim "Holier-than-thou" status are nothing but. Pride goes before a fall they say and that goes for pride of faith as well.

(Okay, getting off of soap box...)

Me? I'm just a citizen of the world....

 
At 2/09/2006 01:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an agnostic European living and working in the Middle-East for a number of years, I must say I am totally flabbergasted at the disproportionate reaction and hypocrisy from even the moderate Muslims around me.

Insulting? Yes it is. So what? Let’s see how insulting Muslims can be to others, shall we? We all know about the endless anti-Semitic cartoons shown in Arab newspapers. What about the TV broadcasts of Western aid workers being decapitated? Patriots of several nations are extremely insulted by the burning of their nation’s flag, which seem to be a hobby among many Muslims. I lived in Saudi Arabia (the birth place/home of Islam) for several years. I saw several times how unfortunate Christians (being ignorant of Saudi law) had their bibles confiscated by customs officials who then proceeded to tear the bible to pieces in front of them. Crosses found where taken and thrown in the garbage can (sometimes the cross was stepped on first). If the cross happened to be around the neck, it would be yanked free with violence. A Christian Lebanese colleague was spit at by a mutawa (religious police) after being asked why he was not in the mosque praying (answering that he was Christian). Or the French colleague who (discretely) wore a small cross, had is yanked off his neck mid-street by a mutawa who then proceeded to beat him bloody with a cane. There where many, many more examples such as these.

While Muslims treated Westerners like this for decades, what did these disgusting infidels do in retaliation? They where fighting for the Palestinian cause and giving billions of dollars in aid to these countries. Denmark was/is one of the largest donors (per capita), Sweden’s Prime Minister Olof Palme was murdered (most probably) by Mossad for his fierce (but peaceful) fight for Palestinian rights (the other theory being that he was murdered by South African CI for his involvement in abolishing apartheid).

As has been properly said, there is enough hypocrisy to go around, but Muslims are the masters of the art!

By the way:
“AND NEVER FORGET SEPTEMBER 11?”
Right, but how about NEVER FORGET HIROSHIMA? When was the last time you thought of that massacre, Sly?

 
At 2/09/2006 01:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ces islamistes sont vraiments cons !!!

my blog http://islammodere.blogspot.com/

 
At 2/09/2006 01:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This only makes it more obvious that the people of the middle east is being subjected to a "hidden agenda" (though it's pretty obvous) from their own goverements. If you take into notice how controling the dictatures of some of the countries where we've seen riots and burning down embasees it is wery unlikely that it was not approved of by the goverements of those countries.
And by the way - do'es poeple also have diabetes in the muslim world? If they do, feel free to boycott all danish goods (as 80% of the insulin being produced worldwide is made in Denmark).

Let them have their riots - as long they don't enforce their sick rules and laws on the free world.

Anders DK

 
At 2/09/2006 01:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This article MUST be picked up by the mainstream European media; yet somehow I'm pretty certain that it won't. Thoughts?

Dan

 
At 2/09/2006 03:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad someone is shedding some clarity on the lunacy of this entire ordeal. Ignorant flocks are herded by their governments for gain. Happens in every country. Religion is nothing more than a tool. A manipulatory device. Clerics with machine guns are just religious kamikazes. Open your mind people. Open your eyes.

Sandmonkey - keep rocking in the free world.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:06:00 PM, Blogger Tony said...

The San Diego, California-based Fifth Avenue Gazette ran a cartoon yesterday that is far worse than anything the Danish paper showed.
Check it out.

www.fifthavenuegazette.com

 
At 2/09/2006 03:08:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great site. Thank God we live in the Internet era. Keep the good work.

 
At 2/09/2006 03:24:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monk! Danish news picked it up - video clip here:
http://media.putfile.com/Al-Fagr

 
At 2/09/2006 03:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Emperor Norton: that's extremely poor online etiquette. At least be HONEST when you're using others' blog comments to advertise your own blog. Most people don't like spam.

 
At 2/09/2006 04:01:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Anonymous said... " some muslim in egypt who publish the cartoon are legal to kill, they're more dangerous than non-muslim. "

Is this what the islam is about: a License to Kill?

 
At 2/09/2006 04:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just thought I'd tell you that the whole thing about the cartoon's being first published in an Egyptian newspaper was mentioned very briefly on Newsnight on BBC 1 just now alongside the "news" that Danish Immans added extra offensive pictures to fan the flames. It was a good discussion, and was nice to see a progressive female Muslim attacking (verbally) the hypocrisy and extremism of certain groups of Muslims.

 
At 2/09/2006 04:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Fellow desert dweller,

Ok, Although, I'm in a desert on the other side of the planet - it's still a desert. I have been to your country and traveled it extensively many years ago. A wonderful place it was.

Thank you for sharing your integrity and supporting Freedom of Speech !

Chazyk

 
At 2/09/2006 04:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, that's not Newsnight it was 'This Week' - Which basically consists of political discussions.

 
At 2/09/2006 04:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are my posts being deleted? Anyway... the news of the cartoons made it onto the BBC. Hopefully this won't disappear.

 
At 2/09/2006 04:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

this isn't news
the media knew of Al-Fagr (El-fagr) publishing the mohammed cartoons as erarly as 20 october:
http://debat.jubii.dk/54/Jyllands-Posten+savner+hold%E5nd_211328.html?&page=12&pp=10

And for the disbeliver of this newspapers extistence: http://elfagr.org/

 
At 2/09/2006 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone needs to explain to me what its like to believe in any sort of religion. I have so many other things I worry about, like my health, my children, my job. Is praying and the belief in some sort of higher being going to make my toothache go away or stop me from having a heart attack or make my kids grow up healthy and tall?

Does religion make you so worry free that your priorities shift to riot over cartoons?

AND to 1:16 PM:
The atomic bombs dropped on Japan saved many more lives than they took on both sides, as the war was abruptly ended. It has also been the main factor in the worldwide drop in casualties associated with war that was escalating up until that point. Although it is nothing to celebrate nor forget, it is a vastly different scenario than 9/11

 
At 2/09/2006 05:09:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Observing this world tragedy from the outside, I'm not angered by the Muslim actions around the globe. On the contrary, I am very saddened that so many of them are played for fools. Their "governements" use religion to play with the poor and the uneducated. I'm so sad for those fighting for their God or Allah who they've never seen in their life. Is this the Allah who gives them anger, grief and sorrow. Is that Allah or isn't that something Evil instead? Allah should give their souls joy, evil is this that takes joy away. Dear Muslim Believers, please wake up because you're being gravely misled. Come back to love and happiness. Appreciate life, its beauty and freedoms. Your Allah wants this for you and he's very sadden that there are those who have misled you.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:38:00 PM, Blogger Bottom Buzzer said...

Excellent site! You are a brave sandmonkey! Peace!

 
At 2/09/2006 05:50:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what the big deal is about a cartoon? Why do you people get so easily offended. No wonder most of the world population dislike close minded Arabs and everything they stand for. Ever heard of free speech? We are all intitled to our own opinion.

 
At 2/09/2006 05:55:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is a picture of Muhammad? Is it drawn directly from him by someone living at his time? Or is it enough to draw it by someones verbal discription that has been passed on by generations? In practice we have no concept of how the profet Mohammad really looks like.

Every picture of Mohammad is just someones experession of him. If some one makes just a picture and names it after Mohammad, does it automatically make it banned? If we now simplify the picture, does it at some point stop representing the profet? An extreme simplification could be just a smiley that we would call Mohammed.

If a Mohammeds picture is not named Mohammed does it stop being banned? Basicly then just any picture could be of Mohammad without a name. A Muslim should be able to point out those pictures that are of Mohammad even without a name. If it's not possible, surely a picture cannot be judged to be of Mohammad just because it has a name on it.

If a picture has a name of Mohammed on it, would it mean it is of the profet Mohammad (the world is full of Mohammad who are not profets)?

If a Mohammad who I know would make a picture of a man and sign his own name on it, would this make that picture banned? If the picture would be of a woman, would this be especially bad?

As obviously the profet has ment by banning the pictures to prevent himself and the pictures to became a target of worship, how a picture made by a non believer that does not reprecent the true profet and does not specify that this is the profet, be against the profets commandments?

Is there going to be a fatva about me for asking these questions?

 
At 2/09/2006 06:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think the cartoons were published for self censorship issues, nor do I believe that the mass protests are representing the muslim population.

I think the publishing in Europe was orchestrated with the intentions to provoke outrage (which is also orchestrated) in the muslim countries. Outrage and violence, which I don't support.

I'm a Bosnian muslim, I'm a socialdemocrat & I'm quite openminded, I respect other religions too...
Isn't this kind of shit in the newspapers a misrepresentation of my faith & me? I think the muslims in the individual countries should sue the papers that printed the cartoons. Just let the courts decide on it...

 
At 2/09/2006 06:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the violence in arab countries is very primitive & dumb. I also think that the intentions of the cartoons was exactly that what happened in the arab countries.

But I'm also disgusted by the blindness of some people in Europe who ask "hey, what's the big deal".

The holocaust did't begin in WWII, it began much earlier, with antisemitic cartoons who are very similar to those of the prophet Mohammad. Antiislamism is taking the place of antisemitism in the west. I felt it first hand while travelling through Europe, and I am a White Caucasian Moslem.

In a time of ongrowing antiislamism, a cartoon of a representative of islam with knives, daggers & bombs is explicitly saying "all moslems are terrorists", which is far away from the truth, and such publishing should be sanctioned by the government and courts of that country for harming moslem's religious feelingsand belief.. Since the Danish government didn't do anything about it, I do somehow have an understanding for their outrage.

 
At 2/09/2006 06:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What makes me sad about this new is that I noticed that in my country happens the same.. or worse! The retarded here knows these guns of government manipulation and has been making jokes about it for decades till now.. It seems they are not strong enough to react agains it, so they make retarded jokes. I can´t see the fun in it.

 
At 2/09/2006 09:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, now people can see muslims for what they really are. Many don't know what is in the koran, and would be disgusted to find out. Did you know that the koran says that a muslim shoudn't be friends with anyone but a muslim .... what a "religion" more like a "genocide" guide.

 
At 2/09/2006 09:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, people talk about apologies now.
I have always been a great fan of apologies.
Sure, let Jyllandsposten apologize for printing of a bearded guy with a bomb.
Now, have we heard an apology from the Taliban for blowing up the Bahmiyan Buddhas?
From Al Fatah for using bibles as toilet paper during their occupation of the Church of Nativity?
From Ahmedinejad for saying the Jewish holocaust was a lie?
Or, for that matter, from all Arab countries for printing Nazi-style antisemitic cartoons every day?
I say yes! Apologies! Bring them on!

(Hmm... maybe I should get some food. That might be a long wait.)

 
At 2/09/2006 10:25:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best of luck to you, 'the sandmonkey', and Al-Fagr. The world needs more voices of reason.

 
At 2/09/2006 11:06:00 PM, Blogger Kverulus Sapiens said...

Wow! You are about to get some serious traffic here. Good work, though I don't think that You should have reprinted the cartoons this way. You should have put them in a hidden window with a warning to the wiewer. Anyway, I'm going to write a letter to the Norwegian Peace Price Committee, and mention You as a nominee for next year's award. It is extremely important that people from muslim countries now stand up for their friends all over the world. And so have You done. Heroic of You. Can't wait to see the reaction to Your blog when it is known here in Norway. I've always had respect for Allah and God, Jesus and Mohammed - but You are the One now! Keep up the good work!

 
At 2/09/2006 11:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

yah. I thought so. This is just so stupid that I have no words. Good work SMonkey.
Its time to stop extremist. I am so tired of them.

all the best,
Thomas

 
At 2/09/2006 11:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allah will find punish for you sandmone,, you must death for this,, you and all are not muslims her will death at end,,, when islam is big in futuren you will not say this,

 
At 2/09/2006 11:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why was late respond from most of Muslim country??...

1. It was internal problem in the DENMARK
2. When it reprinted in most of EUROPE news paper it was not consider as internal anymore..... That WHY thing become hotter
4. U can choose put water or gas
that up tou yours...

 
At 2/09/2006 11:51:00 PM, Blogger Olli Haukkovaara said...

At 10:06 AM, jonas said...

>Lay off, Yasmina, will you? She's not like that. What she posted is sarcasm. Had you been around
>long enough, you would know that.

Sorry Yasmina. Didn't realize that it was sarcasm. Sarcasm is really a difficult skill. I guess I'm not the onlyone who misunderstood your writing.

 
At 2/09/2006 11:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to go Sandmonkey - I hope that you are as sincere and honest as you seem to be. I think there are two very different issues at stake here - freedom of press and respect. Do I think that is is wise, kind, necessary, respectful, or intelligent to print something that will offend and hurt millions of people? No. Absolutely not. But as citizens of a free country, it is our right to do so, if we so choose. It is my hope that now that shit has happened, with extremists on both sides really going bananas, that we, the majority of the world, who are not interested in fighting, but simply wish to respect one another and get along, no matter what our personal belief system might be. Let's grow stronger from this, let's not allow stupidity, anger, ignorance, and hotheadedness to rule. I suggest we take back control of the situation and say no more. Love and happiness to all of you. peonine

 
At 2/10/2006 12:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sandmonkey - your blog is headline news in Norway! Check out:

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/02/10/457379.html

If this gets on some big media in the Muslim world, say Al Jazeera, then people might get a different perspective on the whole unfortunate affair.
(Do this (9th Feb. post):
http://indspeak.wordpress.com/)

Your blog might actually contribute to stopping violence! Save lives!?

Be proud - you deserve it!

 
At 2/10/2006 12:33:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great read SM, i hope for more of you selfthinking and critical muslims speaking out against those who seek to keep their influence over the uneducated masses.

Greets from Sweden

 
At 2/10/2006 12:57:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a Dane who is just as concerned over 'my' groups stupidity - Let us console ourselves that most people are probably morons, and hope that the will find some way ot of the mess. I doubt that burning a Danish flag (with a christian symbol on it) will ensure general repect of religious symbols, or that anything excet time will change the opinion of those very angry people. If Danes will insult some one else for a while perhaps the offended moslems will go back to burning stars and stripes and everyone will be happy again :-)

 
At 2/10/2006 12:59:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE Waiting to see the denmark people what going to happen in their contry when All muslims around the world don't buy any products made in denmark,WE WILL DEFEND OUR PROHPET MOHAMED (PBUH) BY ANY MEANS, ISLAM is about PEACE. We will not accept anybody mocking this beautiful religion is this clear ??????????????????????????? ALL MUSLIMS IN AUSTRALIA ARE NOT GOING TO BUY ALL PRODUCTS MADE IN DENMARK
Respect all Religions whether or not if u have Religion......................GOD IS WITH EVERYONE, LOVE GOD AND PROPHETS اما بعد اخوتي في الاسلام السلام عليك ورحمة الله تعالى و بركاته
واقل شي نفعله هو مقاطعة بضائعهم فبالاقتصاد نستطيع ان نقوم بمحاربتهم ويوفقنا الله والمسلمون كافة وادعو بذا الدعاء ياربنا اهن من اهان رسولنا وحبيبنا وارهم دلائل قدرتك وعافى الله الاسلام والمسلمون الاديان الاخرى ,اللهم احفظ كتابك ودينك ورسلك و عبادك المؤمنين و المسلمين
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله

 
At 2/10/2006 01:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One on norways biggest newspapers has this as a main story in their online edition. http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/02/10/457379.html

 
At 2/10/2006 01:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you:D

 
At 2/10/2006 02:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info that needs to be read by people seeking it! and publishing the cartoon! Now seeing it, I can only say the rampaging is unbelievably moronic!-regardless of faith! it's only a cartoon! drawn from one persons view.
The attention should be drawn to these extremeists who murder women and children and behead humans in clear view of the world! THAT offends me and the rest of the modern world! Do we rampage and kill? -No we are civilized human beings...
Rob-Canada

 
At 2/10/2006 02:07:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the arabic cliplet between the cartoonish drawings of the prophet translated into english is showing that the egyptian people are pissed off and is just showing examples of what a Denmarkian newspaper had printed on the first week of ramadan...

so either the image with the date on it is from a different newspaper to the cliplet that the prophets drawings are on...

or the denmarkian newspapers have printed it even before then!

 
At 2/10/2006 02:08:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Egypt has freedom of speech ? Anyway I think as a norwegian and christian that we should respect other relegions, but on the other hand it can be very hard to resepect people when the are crying about killing and revenge.

 
At 2/10/2006 02:14:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I couldn't have put it any better. Thank you..

 
At 2/10/2006 02:15:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Atlast - this shows what we here in scandinavia has believed a while; the insurgents are goverment controlled - or atleast not stopped by the goverment as they have a hidden agenda and is profiting politicaly on this incident.

This goes particuallary for Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. And again - it's not hard to believe that Iranian goverment see no reason to try hard enough to stop demonstrants.

 
At 2/10/2006 02:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Muslims Boycott Danish products...how much cheese do you eat?
Be it known- The rest of the modern world will boycott YOU!

 
At 2/10/2006 02:25:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you say a little about what the headlines say? - my arabic is a little rusty :-)

 
At 2/10/2006 02:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

..... and by the way: One danish newspaper publishes something, and an egyptian newspaper is pissed off....
That how the dialog should have run - debating or arguing newspapers.
If a butcher sells you bad meat, and goes on vacation, you punish the baker instead - that is stupid and hurting the moslems everywhere.

 
At 2/10/2006 02:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are now in a Norwegian newspaper. Keep up the good work Sandmonkey, kick the hell out of the muslims using sense and being rational!!!!

 
At 2/10/2006 02:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just cant understand why the arabic ppl in the world gets totaly cratzy for those drawings...I think they just want war, and they will soon get when Iran buys long distance missils, cabable of carrining nuclar weapons from Korea, and produses Nuces themself... And when the ppl of Palestina attacks one of their only allys, the Norwegians, i think its kinda weird...Also in Afganistan the mob attacks soldiers from the West, i think the soldies should shoot back one day, it would give em a lesson! Ok so you feel harmed by this drawing rite? But if every christian person in the world shuold go burn houses and kill ppl when they saw a drawing of jesus or god or someone? I meean look at all the pictures and games containing jesus on the internett! Many of them are alot more hurting than thees drawings... So all muslims outy there: Stop or you will probobly get bombed by the Western world... Peace Out...

A Wester Boy 13 Years Old...

 
At 2/10/2006 02:45:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, Sandmonkey! As you've already been told, this story has now been picked up by the Norwegian press, and they linked to your blog.

Oslo, Norway

 
At 2/10/2006 02:54:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks from the savage people of Norway.The whole case is more or less a joke.I was shocked that it could lead to this.

 
At 2/10/2006 03:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i dont know who you are whether you are egiptian or dane or any other so called freedom supporter, please keep in mind that one's fault cannot give you to go on the same stupidness.

mustafa ere, turkey

 
At 2/10/2006 03:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous writes: "WE WILL DEFEND OUR PROHPET MOHAMED (PBUH) BY ANY MEANS, ISLAM is about PEACE"

LOL! Two contradictions in the same sentence. I think this is typical for muslims. They are the biggest hypocrites ever - and they are too stupid and brainwashed by their imams to see it.

 
At 2/10/2006 04:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks a lot for being a lonely sign of intelligent life in the Middle East. That is certainly not the impression we get from watching angry muslims shouting "Alluhu akhbar!" I know there has to be more people who share your views. Let your voices be heard!
Norwegian greetings!

 
At 2/10/2006 04:14:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been told that theres actually not a line in the koran that states you cant draw "the prophet" only about allah

 
At 2/10/2006 04:17:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I WONDER IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS POST

http://jimmys-corner.blogspot.com/2006/02/once-again-al-fagr-is-not-shihan-or.html


since it mentions you and answers some of your questions, also i'd like to hear your response to it.

I SHOULD DEFINETLY GET A BLOGGER ACCOUNT

keep up the good work
kareemfromegypt

 
At 2/10/2006 04:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 11:38 PM, Anonymous said...
"Allah will find punish for you sandmone,, you must death for this,, you and all are not muslims her will death at end,,, when islam is big in futuren you will not say this,"

Stupid beyond belief!
Keep up the good work Sandmonkey, as the above comment shows muslims are really in need of intelligent voices speaking up!

 
At 2/10/2006 04:47:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my gosh finally someone brave enough to bring some sense into this madness, we love you sandmonkey!

 
At 2/10/2006 05:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Superbly well percepted!!!! Good to know not only western ignorants are ignorants.
This should be headlining CNN for days and days.....
And to sandmonkey; thank you!!
p.inc of Norway.

 
At 2/10/2006 05:16:00 AM, Blogger Melanie O. said...

Absolutely brilliant blog. I wish that the media would sit up and take more notice of you - and I wish I knew more Muslims like you!

Peace.

 
At 2/10/2006 05:33:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Respect

 
At 2/10/2006 05:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a blogger you are :-)

I found your blog here:
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2006/02/10/457379.html

Al Fagr have removede the front page of this newspaper from their site. Haha.

You are The King!

Maria

 
At 2/10/2006 05:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think some muslims are overreacting .. those pics where not made to hurt people .. also ...


i am a christian and i dont take it seriusly if people r mocking jesus (wich is pretty common) f.x. saying jesus christ without any reason.
if u think about it , people are mocking jesus WAY WAY WAY more than muhammed... so just GET OVER IT

 
At 2/10/2006 05:54:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great job, SM! I've been reading you for quite a while. This blows the lid off any claim to genuine outrage. Love your humor, btw.

 
At 2/10/2006 05:58:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 4:55 AM, Anonymous said...
"FUCKING MOHAMAD FUCKING ARABIANS FUCKING SHIT
YOU ARE THE SHIT OF THE WORLD
!!!!"

Another example of stupidity beyond belief.
The above comment speaks for itself, ignorance is probably evenly distributed throughout the world.

- Norwegian in deep admiration of Sandmonkey

 
At 2/10/2006 06:00:00 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Nice work on this research!

I'm from Portugal, and about 10 years ago, a cartoonist from the leading news magazine drawed a condom in pop john paul II nose, and it was a big fuzz, but it reminded us all the important message, the catholics are against the use of condom, because they say its against the nature of reproduction of mankind... and they don't care about AIDS! Can you believe it?

But congrats on the research!

 
At 2/10/2006 06:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Jew I am loving this. I hope these arabs kill each other.

 
At 2/10/2006 06:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

<3 Sandmonkey

 
At 2/10/2006 06:42:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good find, and good research. This is one blog I will be coming back to.
I truly hope this will help bring the situation down to where it belongs, a debate with words, Enough buildings and flags have suffered to this overproportioned conflict of imageing, hopefully this clear hypocricy will make the rioters do a time out and think a while.
Also, welcome to mainstream media, tomorrow will be insane for your host.

 
At 2/10/2006 07:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Sandmonkey,

You da Man. Thank you for the revelation.

 
At 2/10/2006 07:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Greetings from Norway:) Great blog you got here!
I just want to say this:
- the ones that are demonstrating, burning flags, burning down embassies and issuing fatwas, they are not true religious people. The islamists are not religious, they are violentracists, violent fascists! I live in a democracy where freedom of speech and free press are essensial human rights. We hav a lot of muslims in Norway too, but they have learned to differ between the state and the press. Tha state doesn't rule what people are allowed to say, or do. Laws regulate this. And in Norway to issue a fatwa would be prohibited by democratic law.

Keep up the good work, and no, I will not go out in my street to burn the Egyptian flag! :-D

 
At 2/10/2006 07:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey.

That other "Anonymous" guy above is posting stupid stuff just to incite any Muslims reading this cite against Norway by claiming to be Norwegian and continuously posting insults. Delete his silly notes.

Darth Swadron

 
At 2/10/2006 07:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

do these people who go out to protest, burn flags, throw rocks and boycott foreign products have any occupation? i mean, do they still receive payment for the days they skipped work? do they have jobs? here in brazil you would probably lose your job if you skipped work more than 1 or 2 days to protest, and your boss would dock your payment for those days. don't they have families to support? i just can't get it...

these news should be brought to the attention of the sensationlist media, maybe they could somewhat releive the situation.

excellent work done on the research.

 
At 2/10/2006 07:47:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dam thats a funny pick hahahahehehe snild
fokking brilliant shit

 
At 2/10/2006 08:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to all you SANDNIGGERS Keep on killing eachother we need a good ethnic cleansing. if you people want to be so stupid over a cartoon then you all need to DIE a slow and painful death. And be sent to you god of Choice...

 
At 2/10/2006 08:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

KEEP ON DIEING SANDNIGGERS KEEP ON DIEING
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE ALL YOU PUNKS GET OUT OF THE STATES AND BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY YOU DONT SEE AMERICANS GOING TO LIVE IN YOUR MUDD HUTS AND SHITHOLE LITTLE CITIES

 
At 2/10/2006 08:09:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Religious people are insane!!!! Marx was right!

 
At 2/10/2006 08:17:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the fuck is wrong with muslims in these countries ,I live in Iceland and the muslime here are protesting and not buying Danish products, but they are not killing peoble and burning the Danish flag because of some stupid pictures!!!

 
At 2/10/2006 08:28:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading your post, I love the hypocrisy shown in the picture of an Egyptian storekeeper removing Danish products from his shelves.

 
At 2/10/2006 08:33:00 AM, Blogger Cristina MR said...

I want to thank you, Sandmonkey, and everyone who has posted something on this BLOG...
I am form Spain, and I wanted to hear some opinion from the muslim side that could confort me.
Now, you and your friends have offered it to me.

 
At 2/10/2006 09:42:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

are people really this stupid? why the hell would an egyptian magazine post pictures with DANISH in them? you would think the text would be in, umm, I don't know, arabic?

Not to mention the fact that Jyllandsposten said they asked for the pictures to be made....

 
At 2/10/2006 09:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way legend tells that Danish flag is sent directly from heaven - so as there is only one god (who has many names for different groups of people) and He has sent that flag.

 

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